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Nice review and details of your impression. I found cliks to be an interesting experiment and marginally better when connecting my pump. Then they partially plugged up after a few months (orange seal) so I ditched them for muc off big bore lites. So far I much prefer the big bores and don’t see...

I think Contender Bikes, a big dealer that ships bikes to you has the Scott Fastlane with the hpr40 in stock.

I agree, the BMC’s with TQ motors are great bikes. I have a small KOM Cycles saddlebag that has a built in Garmin mount for a Varia. The BMC rear light still shows up well and gives me two lights plus the radar. And a Hafny Drop Bar mirror makes a good double check on the radar display. I added...

Yako has a new review of the Scott with the hpr40. He gives a thorough description but hasn’t been able to ride one yet. One thing I noted is that the three fastlane models use the same frame and fork but the top two have an integrated cockpit while the lower level uses a stem and bars. That’s...

Cliks didn’t work out for me. Orange seal partially clogged them and I switched to muc off big bore lite valves. So far I’m impressed with them: all my pump heads fit well, they allow a big volume of air in, no leaking when attaching or removing the pump head, no valve core to clog or restrict...

Another hpr40 bike just showed up: Scott Fastlane. I see three models, the top one weighs 9.9kg. The specs show max assist speed “28mph US” so they are, or will soon be available in the U.S. https://www.scott-sports.com/us/en/products/bike-ebikes-road-fastlane

Lucky you! I see that the new Treks and BMC bikes that had the hpr50 are now coming with the hpr60 - no frame mods necessary. I’ve read a few posts about people swapping motors themselves and either unbolting the heat sinks or modifying the plastic motor cover to make room for them. What a good...

The plugged area is inside the Clik valve - the spring loaded plunger can only be pulled out a mm or so and I can’t clean out the tiny bits of gummy sealant inside the shaft. If I were able to put grease in there it would only make things worse. It is the airflow pathway through the valve. I did...

My Clik days are over. I gave them an honest try for five months or so but they are not what I hoped for. Both valves are partially plugged and the pump head to valve seal leaks a little unless it’s held motionless while snapped on. I use Orange Seal and usually rotate the wheels so the valves...

That’s a good point about getting a reasonable fit with an integrated cockpit, at least one that gives you 50mm of spacers to raise it with. I didn’t know they had that capability. I think I read the canyon has 15mm of adjustment. And as you said it doesn’t appear that they have ‘stem’ length...

It will be great to get your impressions of the difference between the hpr40 and hpr60. Aside from the increase in power in the high level, I wonder if you’ll feel a difference if they’re set to give the same support. And I agree with Ras about the one piece cockpit being a pretty extreme...

I’m looking forward to more of your reviews and insights! I saw a posting on another site where a rider pasted a response from TQ saying they will give the motors the ability to do “over the air updates” by the end of the year. If you get a chance to confirm that it sure would be a great...

REI shows up as a Canyon service location. Apparently rei partnered with canyon last year and is expanding their locations that service them.

If your reason for the flat bar conversion is a more upright position, you could consider riser drop bars like the redshift top shelf bars. They’ll raise the bars by 50 or 70mm and give you more hand positions than flat bars.

That sounds good. I’m 72 and was never a fast rider. If I ride fairly hard for an hour I do about 160w average, 175w normalized av. I do have plenty of days where I average 120w (~135 normalized), getting a more relaxed ride but still a decent workout. And unlike some TQ riders my rider power...

based on your data in line 32 I’d like to see how they compare with 155 watts of rider input. Maybe even compare two levels of exertion, I’d call 155w a moderate level and 120w a relaxed level. But then we all have our own definitions of those levels. Thanks for sharing your work here!

Interesting data. I would be more interested in comparing the range of the different bikes with rider power as a constant, meaning pedal them all with the same input power at the same speed and adjust the motor contribution needed to maintain that speed. It seems like the creo would need to be...

I watched that segment again and the translation said the BMC is a “super light unicycle …” No wonder it only weight 8.5kg! Then when you bolt on the front half of the bike it will weigh more than the canyon. Or the AI translator is showing its limitations.

I saw a couple of mentions and video views of the BMC from reviewers at Eurobike. It’s a prototype based on the Teammachine model, 8.5kg with the tq hpr40. I know BMC is switching their Roadmachine model from the hpr50 to the hpr60, which makes sense - the roadmachine is their endurance bike and...

I‘ve been reading that some mt. Bikers with the HPR50 have had them replaced with hpr60 motors. It seems that the only difference in fit between the two is that the hpr60 has bolt-on heat sink fins that could make it hard to fit the motor cover over, at least on some brands. Some say that the...