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Just look at the picture of that green Creo (lovely colour btw) and imagine flat bars where the stem ends. Now look at how far further forward the hoods are. Or the drops. The only way to be sure is to sit on a Creo and try both positions. Better still would be to swap out the drops and actually...

Right. The answers could get very complicated and longwinded. So actually I'm not going to dig deep! in a nutshell. The gravel issue Q3 is not really the issue. Q1 Google AI puts it this way: A drop bar bike generally has a shorter top tube than a flat bar bike to compensate for the extra...

Jesus. When he crashes he does it right.

Shame. In Uk this year it's free to air. Major terrestrial TV channel ITV has the rights for years but like the Tour, this is their final year. Bastards at Discovery/TNT have it fully next year behind the £30 a month paywall. So I'm enjoying it while I can. Not surprised it's not easily...

Whenever this type of lightweight flat bar ebike or conversion comes up for discussion here it always seems to centre on Specialized (Vado SL or Creo conversion) or the Santa Cruz Skitch. But now with more lightweight motors out, there are more bikes to choose from like Stomp's Pinarello. The...

o Oh yes! Way back in 1987 Stephen Roche rode for an Italian team (Carrera) in that year's Giro & the team picked their Italian star rider (and 86 Giro winner) as team leader, famous playboy Roberto Visentini. Little love between both and Roche felt he was the better rider so disobeyed team...

Stage 1 ending: This seems to be an official and free YT steam of all stages not sure if it's international: Article on team line ups etc https://www.cyclingweekly.com/racing/tour-of-britain-men-2025-start-list

will do.

Just watched the last KMs of the 1st stage of the tour of Britain. Pretty good line up this year, Remco back on the bike. Alaphilippe, Brennan, Bilbao, Oscar Onley plus it's Geraint's last ever race before he retires.

Reported you for trying to link to electric motorbike adverts.

I get the marketing aspect. I just find it a very weird looking bike and a bit old fashioned in that red styling so I'm not sure who would be attracted to it. But beauty is in the eye etc etc.

Exactly! Take Stefan's wisdom with a grain of salt. Saddle comfort has a lot to do with the correct width for the correct position. If upright your bones need wider then if angled forward on drops. But the devil is in the detail. And on here I would say there has been more wasted digital ink on...

It's a very strange vanity project. I'm sure Sagan was happy with this new toy.

Here's an interesting write up of that Vado SL 2 S-Racing bike: https://downtown-mag.com/en/specialized-turbo-vado-sl-2-s-racing-test/

That's weird. Is EmileSmith34 a bot or AI??

Because it's owned by Pon who might not want it to compete with its Dutch brands or Cervelo? Santa Cruz are very popular in UK.

Ayuso leaves UAE!

Ha snap Stefan! Was just thinking about the flats & drops difference. Though I wouldn't be derogatory about Santa Cruz, just because you are ignorant of their history - if it's correct, who knows why they decided this approach? Anyway here's a comparison of the Vado SL 6 & The Creo 2. Both...

Just looked at this - The S- Racing is kinda funny looking with that original 1980s Rockhopper bright red paint job and such slack & long geometry. For a bike with 'World Tour Components'? It seems a little confused for its use. I wonder how it rides on the road compared to a road bike. And...

The advertised weight of the Turbo Creo 2 Comp is 14.55kg size 56cm, not 15.6kg - from what I can see online. Or did I misread your graph?