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Thanks. I had mentioned the issue a while back but I guess it wasn't visible enough. https://electricbikereview.com/forums/threads/attaching-images-in-conversations-diabled.35419/

How much different it is than riding a torque sensing rear hub? I can appreciate that higher power would be exhilarating but not really sure it comes from anything but that?

Okay, let's go with LSEB definition. How does this quack like a LSEB?

Sorry to hear, hoping things turn out as best they can. Real life problems have a way of putting things in perspective. I don't think any of us have full appreciation for life or things we take for granted until our own mortality stares us in the face.

No, I get that. I can't claim to ride an e-bike that is 100% class compliant, but then, it's not materially different than a class 1, 2 or 3 compliant bike for the majority use case. Not sure you could say that about this bike, well, until there is a PAS option.

Maybe I missed it on the website but where are the details regarding PAS? Only references I can seem to find are in this topic. How far in development? What testing has been done, if any? Estimated cost? Commitment to bringing it to completion? ETA?

Just seems odd to me to think about this bike as a commuter. Where would you commute legally on this bike? I guess you could wait for PAS and dial it back to make it class 2 or 3, but more realistically you're looking at licensing it as a motorcycle.

How power hungry is this motor? I assume you went with the 25ah external battery because you're gonna need it, but honestly that frame doesn't do much for me from a looks standpoint. Would be a lot sexier on a monte capro, I realize that's FS and might not have enough battery capacity, but...

That's encouraging to hear. Perhaps I'm assuming too much based on bike chains. I suppose you're able to use a heavier duty chain and also dial in the alignment better which would also help.

No PAS is a head scratcher. Throttle only / pedal input is ignored? I guess if you want something more akin to a motorbike than an ebike. I'm not sure I'm convinced there is much practical redundancy either. If you consider the assist side chain will be most likely to break, can't see...

Only available as a fat tire hard tail? Will it work with FS?

I'd say completely different animals though. The Valeo would be consumer mainstream and the other enthusiast off-road. Not sure one would be optimal for the other and vice versa.

Nope, up to 750W sustained, 1000W peak, 130nm torque. Edit: see video (specs mentioned 45 seconds or so into the video for US market):

That valeo sytstem looks very promising (especially as they seem to be thinking of more than just the eruo market). Too bad at CES 2022 they only seemed to have provided test rides to 2 guys that never had ridden an ebike before, at least that's all the shows up on youtube.

😅 Perhaps it's a Biktrix and Watt Wagons collaboration, that would explain the delay. Seriously though, Deafcat hinted last night it was taking longer than expected to pull the media / website materials together.

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Do you have brake sensors? Perhaps those could be cutting off power intermittently. Doesn't explain the low power though.

Sounds like it may be a biktrix sponsored venture? It doesn't seem the goal is to develop this for the 250W euro-spec mass market but rather provide an alternative to Bafang Ultra for off road / high power enthusiasts. Makes a lot of sense to take the stress off the chain in that regard. As...

How well has this worked on prototypes paired with rear suspension? I assume the belt needs some sort of tensioner? Also, I recall early protypes of the LMX64 were obnoxiously loud but perhaps they fixed that once they found the right belt drive.

Shel-done, good to hear you've reached a resolution and that WW stepped up to do the right thing. I think you'll be much happier opting for a bike closer to what you originally wanted.