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The main 'benefit' here for most, I think, is their intent to not allow locked in licensing on this frame, avoiding the problems many in the US have on e.g. getting an E10 (Luna) or (forget it's designation, but it's a modified E22 with the diamond mount up front, otherwise an E22) - Monte Capro...

Sorry, where did you get the impression Biktrix makes their own frames? I'm 99% certain they don't. Juggernaut and others look like standard China frames like from Eunorau or their parent company and others. The Monte Capro is a modified E22 frame (now unique due to the front shock mount)...

I came across this, a pretty good Current thread, when trying to sort WTH motor is being used. Thanks for whomever posted the vid, but yeah, seems to be a no-name-brand motor from someone, can't sort whom at this point. One post in here seems to indicate only ~22MPH on flat ground, which...

Hmm. My driveway is crazy steep to the point of if it snows, no one's coming down it and neither of us are driving to work, period...my M600 and wife's Bosch Gazelle have no issues. What kind of grade is it and for how long? Am wondering if an M600 equipped bike might do it... Otherwise Luna...

Interesting - there are only so many choices of motors out there. The comment about adding throttle makes it sound even more likely it's an M600... even if they 'claim it's our own special sauce,' very few bike sellers are real manufacturers, etc...mostly component assembly, especially on the...

If by 'the owner' you mean the company selling the bike, yes...but M600s can not be 'end user' switched without a CANBUS programmer or the BESST tool, at least without an almost-nonexistent-except-for-Luna-LudiV2-controller/custom controller on the motor (not the display, actual controller...

Yeah - at least to date, Specialized has indeed seemed to have done a stellar job around warrantees... probably baked into the $ and with their handful of (prior gen?) motor issues, but I've seen far more 'they did the right thing' stories compared to many others...basically, they seem to indeed...

Stefan is very....particular, and not in the US. Don't concern yourself about it - they can indeed set the max speed limit on the M600 but it's not user settable. They expect you to know and adhere to local laws, whatever they may be, and probably wouldn't set it to the 28MPH max for EU/non-US...

The Current looks like it also has an M600 Bafang motor. I'm almost betting their comment on 'can be set to class 3' means on order, you can have them use their dealer tool to do a one-time alteration of max speed limit. I don't think the owner can change this - again, there's nothing 'special'...

My wife has a gazelle t10 Medeo which has been problem-free for a year+ now. Note there is a pretty big difference in battery/power consumption between the Bosch vs e.g. Bafang. Being used to Bafang behavior, initially I was never sure my wife's battery meter was even remotely working, as I...

Yo and lol - a 250W Bafang hub motor like dozens of other direct-from-AliExpress bikes. Nothing special or interesting here; no thanks.

Well, technically there's the WW/Bolton collaboration, while their site still says 'coming late 2022' - basically an E5 frame but with M600 and (maybe?) Innotrace controller.. ? https://www.area13ebikes.com/products/falcon but yeah, no Atom..

It is - it's in the product page bullet list. Updated geometry and comfort Stronger, more balanced frame developed by Watt Wagons Larger battery with higher peak current Stronger unibody rear triangle Default 29er wheels Frame break for upcoming more advanced features! Guessing it's their way...

Doh - the AL 'race jack' and a (wooden) workbench are among the only 'quality' HF buys I've had. It's surisingly difficult to find a quality jack nowadays... Bits and hand tools - completely agree. Sadly, with the Craftsman/Sears mess (there are kind of now two 'Craftsman' tools), Craftsman...

I've occasionally bought HF for 'disposable' tools, or ones truly one to few time usage only. Things like a spackle/drywall hawk are tough to screw up, for example, and I have one of their orbital polishers I re-greased and use for car polishing/buffing. I have a couple of their 'wooden...

The issue with smaller compressors is mostly down to the tank size - the motors aren't high powered enough to use pressure 'straight from the motor' so having a larger storage tank can help with things like seating beads and the like. Always let the compressor run, and set the pressure on the...

Yeah, kind of why I was curious RE: Falcon/M600 and Innotrace. I'm quite happy with my X2 with VESC/Ludi V2 controller overall. I can't (probably) hold at 30mph+, but for the riding I do, I'm pretty happy with it. I rarely go beyond PAS 3 of 9 on 'Trail' mode. (would need to check RE: max...

Not listed on Bafang’s site as of yet, and as mentioned, only seen the FLX Weapon advertised with it. Considering the recent M510 variant of the M500, am guessing it will be similar, perhaps slightly lighter and slightly more claimed power/torque output. Like @JRA mentioned, we’re all hoping...

Did this ever actually happen - anyone have an M600 + Innotrace ebike now?

Durability has been fine for me and many others. In addition to IOUZip's posted link to Rob's build, there are probably hundreds of documented E10 frame builds on emtb forums. Very few if any reported issues on the frame. The motor uses a 'silent gear' which is a form of polymer material vs...