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Trek is most likely requiring the lights be on whenever the bike is powered on. They do this in the firmware. A dealer may be able to change this, but I doubt it.

Did they break a lock to get it or was it not locked up?

Nope

Take a look at the 2022 Serial 1 Rush/Cty Speed (2nd gen) https://serial1.com/products/rush-cty-speed?variant=39950624063558 Belt drive Class 3 Integrated lights w/brake lights 4 piston hydraulic brakes w/203mm rotors Brose TF Mag motor Security w/tracking

I do not believe Sur Ron makes “ebikes”. They make electric off road motocross bikes….no pedals. So if you are riding it on public streets or bike paths then maybe they can, or at the very least ticket you. ……and I don’t think having insurance matters if you are riding it illegally.

Call them! I’m sure they will straighten it out.

Milwaukeeland! 😜

A nice ride along Lake Michigan today on my new Rush/City Speed. So far really loving it! The weather made for a perfect fall ride! The skyline of Serial 1’s birthplace seen from the Oak Leaf Trail!

Not an issue for me, but maybe this would work for you? https://support.enviolo.com/hc/en-us/articles/360014553559-AUTOMATiQ-Quick-start-with-controller

Could they maybe use some more tape and “paper” wrap to hold it all together?Meh......no thanks! Aliexpress battery example, again no thanks.

Doesn’t Tesla “lock you to their ecosystem” with their batteries? I’m pretty sure you can’t slide a Chevrolet Bolt battery pack into a Tesla....

With the premium manufacturers, you aren’t just paying for the battery cells. You are paying for quality/robust engineering and manufacturing......This includes the battery cell packaging and the BMS. Shimano...... versus......

I think they are referring to motor inhibitor brake switches. They are not needed on the “premium” mid-drives because they have no throttle and the power is instantly cut when pedaling stops. Many hub motors have them even if not equipped with a throttle because there is often a noticeable lag...

I have the E8000, and it’s far from underpowered, lol. .......and yes, I’ve ridden Brose and Bosch for comparison. Edit: I’m wondering if the E8000 the OP tried was de-tuned using the STEPS E-Tube app.... https://bike.shimano.com/en-US/e-tube/project/formobile.html

Thanks for clarifying. I must have mistaken you for someone else In another thread....

.....and you still haven’t answered my questions regarding your gas powered “bicycle” and your true motivations. Does it have a speedometer?....lol

So you don’t know for sure that what you’re petitioning for won’t impact access to bike trails, paths and MUPs.........

Ken, please correct me if I’m wrong, but haven‘t you mentioned at some point that you have a gas powered ”bicycle” that is no longer legal to ride on streets in Colorado? If so, is this the true reason you’re pushing for this? If so, I doubt many states if any will ever allow this type of...

Ken, you have skated around the concerns of many, that the elimination of the 3 class system will potentially result in municipalities and land managers banning all ebikes on bike trails, paths, and MUPs. Can you state for certain that this will not be a possibility? To me, it seems like you...

You are aware auto and motorcycle manufacturers have to produce vehicles that meet different US (and foreign) requirements? Mainly related to emissions regulations, such as California‘s CARB requirements. The car or motorcycle you purchase in California is not the same as the one you would...