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doesnt ZEN have a bike that fits that criteria now?

There is no comparison between that particular build of yours and these You don’t have fenders or built in lights, igh or belt drive Two totally different things I know you build some nice bikes and clean setups but to me function is way more important than trying to hide all the wires and...

This is a clean build, it is a dual battery bike and has what looks like an abus folding lock on the seat tube Probably has 30-40ah of batteries on it I don’t care if my bikes look like ebikes

For me would probably be inclined to take a bigger battery for that weight difference

I think he meant the 15ah instead of the 20ah..?

How much weight difference in the 15ah vs 20ah down tube battery?

Let me be clear I do not care AT ALL how fast road bikers are on the roads, in fact agree with them going as fast possible to keep up with traffic for safety MUP are a completely different thing and I think the speed limit on any I have ridden on should be 15mph and enforced I don’t care how...

I have the archon and have the changed the thumb throttle 3-4 times trying various for better smoothness and had no problem, any bafang mid drive throttle will work has been my experience but did not find a smoother throttle

sure others will chime in that know more, but could you have been in too easy a gear and not getting enough torque on the pedals to get the motor to give full power???? that would be my first thought does it have a power meter on it so you could see how much it was putting out the mid drives are...

Thanks for posting this Ravi! great info to have ok what about the rohloff next to these 2?

No I have not owned specialized but have ridden them and other brose bikes and think the brose motor is my favorite out of the euro type drives If I had an extra $6000 and more space would probably have one in my garage I have owned 2 Yamaha mid drives that I loved and have ridden Bosch bikes...

You will not beat the Zen bike for build and warranty with the criteria you listed

I ride class 2 bikes everywhere and own a bafang ultra bike like AHicks I am regularly blown off mtn biking trails by people on analog bikes and class 1 plus all the road bikers pass me like I am standing still half the time on the street or bike path this is like saying a Ferrari has to be...

Agree on Zen! also test ride that aventon before buying, I am under the impression their controllers are crappy and not programmable, think this is referenced in their thread a lot, where the pas is like an on/off switch, very unpleasant to ride maybe that has changed but test ride to find out...

I’m sure there are multiple ways to cover them but seems like that would be permanent and I don’t want to do that, most of the time these are brake cut off wires and a good chance I’ll use them in the future But thank you for the suggestion I am determined to find some, have feelers out to two...

Hmm I don’t know if the vinyl caps will come small enough but maybe Tom I thought all Higo round connectors are the same size on the bafang motors stuff??? My research seems to show it is mini B??? Have you ever seen caps for these?

Like these , they come male and female

Has anyone come up with a source for these? So far all i am finding is europe and no shipping here i have a couple of bikes with unused harness ends I would like to protect from dust/rain

i find that also, most of the time on my in the past throttle only bikes i used less wh on torque or cadence sensor bikes.. once you get up to speed you dont need it much still like having option of pas and throttle though

Think specialized just does not have all this online sales worked out well yet if it was me I would consider evelo and reading this post and another you wrote on i think you may be overestimating what an lbs can do for you repair wise, yes you can hand the bike over to them when broken and...