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  1. mcdenny

    Another Turbo Vado Ergonomics Thread

    I should also add that I did identify a lighter bike that I liked better than my Turbo Como. A Trek verve+ 4S is very similar, same battery capacity, same upright posture. 8# lighter, rigid front fork, more powerful motor, 28 mph. Very quiet too. I rode it 4 or 5 miles and liked it a lot...
  2. mcdenny

    Another Turbo Vado Ergonomics Thread

    So, here's what I did to deal with the weight of the Turbo Como. I have a KUAT NV2.0 base carrier. Works great but heavy (52#). Bought their loading ramp ($96). Now effortless to load the bike nearest the car using walk mode. Using this method for a second bike takes some effort as it has to...
  3. mcdenny

    Speed vs battery life

    Probably but I like having that big trunk.
  4. mcdenny

    Speed vs battery life

    My last data point I will bore you with. Today I rode in Percy Warner park, just west of Nashville. Mostly forest with lots of steep hills, so steep that I was pedaling up in second or third gear and TURBO mode, maybe 10 mph. The asphalt was old and sun dappled so it was hard to read the...
  5. mcdenny

    Questions on current Como 4

    @Ade169 Sounds like you have a bike shop problem as well as a battery problem. They should have a way to load test the battery and determine right away if it's defective or not. Sure sounds like it is. I've read several instances here of Specialized stepping up to make things right. You...
  6. mcdenny

    Speed vs battery life

    Finally got my longer ride in today. Riding 24 miles was not hardly different from my 6 mile test loop rides. My conclusion is that my ass and shoulder range is substantially less than the battery range! Pretty flat compared to my test loop. I rode one way in ECO mode 98% of their time...
  7. mcdenny

    Speed vs battery life

    I'm learning a lot too. My interest is understanding my range riding my bike in different circumstances. With two separate energy sources it's not nearly as straightforward as X miles in assist level Y.
  8. mcdenny

    Speed vs battery life

    Thanks. now I get it.
  9. mcdenny

    Speed vs battery life

    The Strava data was uploaded from Mission Control after the ride was complete. Here's what I don't get. Calories and watt hours are energy units just like kilometers and miles are distance units. In the ride shown above Strava says I exerted 52 watts for 33 minutes. That's 28.6 Wh. It also...
  10. mcdenny

    Hub, mid, torque sensor

    Been awhile since the last post but I wanted to add my $0.02. "Tossing" a 60-70 # large unwieldy package into your Tesla will be no trivial task. When you tested the Lectric did you actually load it into your car? It weighs 68# with the battery removed. We had two 30# 20" folding bikes...
  11. mcdenny

    Safer together

    I ride some on "greenways", shared paved paths with walkers. If walkers seem to not realize I'm passing I slow way down and sometimes pull off onto the grass. Also say "thank you" when they move to the right to give more room. Gotta say the analogue road bikers are far and away the fastest...
  12. mcdenny

    A fascinating discussion of EV battery fires

    I accidentally shorted a tiny Li ion battery once trying to take apart an old GPS. Very impressive.
  13. mcdenny

    Speed vs battery life

    Just put the free version of Strava on my phone, very interesting seeing the graphs of elevation, speed and cadence. Thanks for the suggestion. Did substantially the same test loop yesterday at my normal riding style - mostly ECO but SPORT or even TURBO going up hills. Coasting down hills...
  14. mcdenny

    Specialised Como 5

    @Ade169 , any word from the shop about your bike's electrical health?
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    Speed vs battery life

    Hmmm. I’ll give Strava a try tomorrow.
  16. mcdenny

    Speed vs battery life

    Is the kcal data from Mission Control not reliable? Seems it must know the power (torque I provide, pedal rpm) and duration to compute energy.
  17. mcdenny

    Speed vs battery life

    That's almost double my cal/mile. I don't have a heart monitor but it doesn't seem like it goes up noticeably when I'm riding with this 16 cal/mile effort. What was your average speed on that ride?
  18. mcdenny

    Speed vs battery life

    1 Wh = 0.86 Kcak (kilo calories and calories are used interchangeably at least here in USA). 16 cal/mile = 18.6 Wh/mile. My 6 mile test loop = 112 watt hours from my effort. Battery supplied 36 Wh. Mission Control says that was 195% support. Don't have any idea how it calculates that...
  19. mcdenny

    Speed vs battery life

    I just did some speed vs range vs PAS setting tests on my Specialized Turbo Como 3.0. Same test loop in all cases. Bottom line: With moderate pedaling effort (16 calories/mile) in low PAS averaging 10.4 mph the bike consumes 6 Wh/mile giving about 80 miles range. Similar effort (13 cal/mile)...
  20. mcdenny

    Specialised Como 5

    If you record that 1 mile uphill ride in the Mission Control app it will tell you how much energy was drawn from the battery. Let's say it showed 80 Kw and the handlebar display said you had consumed 12% of the battery. 80/0.12=666. So 666 Wh is the actual battery capacity. I believe the...
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