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You can purchase some of the Bafang mid-drives at the retail level.

"....bike must cost less than $8,000 dollars" "..........the same credit for a $5,000 dollar eBike as you would for a $8,000 dollar eBike." Last time I checked $8,000 was equal to $8,000 and not less than $8,000.

https://electrek.co/2021/01/29/bafang-compete-against-european-e-bike-motor-makers-new-service/

And on the subject of Overlords, meanwhile back at Mar-a-Lago.................

Unitree A1 robot dog:

Listen to John Lithgow's character at 0:35 in this clip from the movie Interstellar: Many of today's children might be saying the same thing in 50-60 years time.

Googled "mac motor" and this was at the top of the the list: http://www.macmotortech.com/

Has anyone ever tried Box Components? https://boxcomponents.com/products/box-two-prime-9-x-wide-single-shift-e-bike-groupset https://boxcomponents.com/products/box-three-prime-9-x-wide-e-bike-groupset

I have been dreaming about, designing and re-designing what I hope may become something new in the very niche world of all weather, recumbent, cargo E-trikes. This category is currently inhabited by such vehicles as the Organic Transit ELF and Better Bikes PEBL, both of which I personally find a...

I have been dreaming about, designing and re-designing what I hope may become something new in the very niche world of all weather, recumbent, cargo E-trikes. This category is currently inhabited by such vehicles as the Organic Transit ELF and Better Bikes PEBL, both of which I personally find a...

I have been dreaming about, designing and re-designing what I hope may become something new in the very niche world of all weather, recumbent, cargo E-trikes. This category is currently inhabited by such vehicles as the Organic Transit ELF and Better Bikes PEBL, both of which I personally find a...

I have been dreaming about, designing and re-designing what I hope may become something new in the very niche world of all weather, recumbent, cargo E-trikes. This category is currently inhabited by such vehicles as the Organic Transit ELF and Better Bikes PEBL, both of which I personally find a...

Thanks again Popeye for another thoughtful reply. My favorite thing about Organic Transit is that they have proven that a market exists for vehicles such as the ELF and PEBL and I sincerely thank them for it. I currently produce in very limited numbers a sport/touring velomobile the Marvelo SKR...

Hi Popeye, Thank you for the diplomatic and informative reply, I appreciate it. I suppose what I was trying to get at is that there should be some point at which a vehicle becomes too heavy to be considered primarily human powered and by definition a bicycle or velomobile. I definitely take...

Both the PEBL and ELF are too heavy to be considered as electric assisted bicycles/tricycles (Ebikes), but should be thought of as light electric vehicles (LEVs) with human pedal assist. I think about a 100 pound curb weight is the realistic limit of anything that should be considered an Ebike...