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In ant event, I still reference my other post that states: "Again, not wanting to start a plethora of disputes, arguments, etc., these are MY opinions. So, for all intents and purposes, please bookmark this thread and revisit it in about 2-3 years and let me know how my crystal ball worked out"...

Turbo Tero X 4.0, at 1/2 price in Germany.....somehing is happening...

Much appreciate the clarification and discovery of those terms....like I said, not a lawyer, but things are for sure going to change, and it's not going to be as it has been in the past. Having had extremely difficult past experiences to resolve multiple issues, I can say it was an uphill...

Without getting into a tizzy of a disagreement, I'll just say the intent is to make those aware who own their product may not have the level of support and longevity by the company, because their days may be numbered, and/or things may get more difficult to resolve. Again, my opinion.

Diminished support, potential end of the company if legal issues, budgets, etc., take their toll. The entire bike industry is in a doldrum, so they are making sure they can survive if the tables turn. Again, my opinion, much like BYD influencing the EV industry, auto manufacturers are headed...

I am not a lawer, but if you were to compare word for word from past to present, things have changed. More specifically: "These Terms contain a mandatory individual arbitration provision and class action waiver. This requires you to use arbitration on an individual basis to resolve disputes...

Ha, Ha, Ha! Look, I'm happy, zero issues, it took a while but they ultimately got it "right" for me anyway. Just like ANY other product, there are problems, issues, recalls, bankruptcies, etc., and me, me thinks that the ground work is being set for potential changes coming down the road and...

Well, here are 3 previous 'Terms of Use' from the "Wayback Machine: (Feb 2023) https://web.archive.org/web/20230207235545/https://www.specialized.com/ar/en/terms-of-use (October 2022) https://web.archive.org/web/20221001073055/https://www.specialized.com/ar/en/terms-of-use (August 2020)...

Got an e-mail today from Specialized informing me that "We’ve updated our Terms of Use", backdated to April 16, 2024. We want to let you know that we are updating our Terms of Use. This update will take effect on April 16, 2024. We have incorporated certain elements of our Terms & Conditions...

Most likely Stefan knows....I've got the 2022 Vado 5.0 which I use my Wahoo Bolt V2 on in NJ as well as the Wahoo Kickr in the basement, both use ANT+ w/the phone. Does the 2020 Vado (the Florida bike) I have use ANT+ so I can use the Bolt V2 or do I need to obtain something to put on the wheel...

And the beat goes on.........

Uggggggh.........the 1st IGH I purchased at the time was only available from a Specialized shop in Mass. in the entire USA and they were willing to sell to me if I paid the shipping cost to NJ LBS to follow Specialized rules about shipping direct to consumer (they said they could not). So I...

The "resolve" was that after a credit card dispute to "wake up" those driving the bus, then, and ONLY THEN was there any sort of resolve. I learned a long, long time ago, if you involve money, it gets the attention of the person whose pocketbook it affects. That's why you use the protection...

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6 pages of conversation about who to choose and why. Each has their own experience. Mine has been documented in these forums. MY opinion is choose your LBS vendor carefully. It's all about their competency. No different than any craftsman in any type of business, Regarding which brand? ME...

I bought 2 of them too, a long time ago, could never get them to work, anyway I tried. What did you tie them int? What voltage/test did/could you apply to validate they work prior to installation?

But....but..but they never listened to me!!!????!

Oh I make stink alright, I get shamed, banned, but there is really minimal acceptance for us bike owners to have a secure place to,leave them without worry. Just another layer of stress to daily life.

I did that when I went to the doctors office, brought it up to the 3rd floor on the elevator, building maintenance scolded me and warned not to ever do it again. No winning. I used to bring it into the gym, then was told I couldn't. No winning.

"Now. Would I pedal a 50 lbs e-bike unpowered? I actually did it for 10 miles upwind back in 2019" I did 5 miles last year, not something I'd like to relive.