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Just found this page great info on watts required to power different human powered drive systems http://www.ihpva.org/HParchive/PDF/hp52-2001.pdf

I ride motorcycles on and off road many trails are now closed because some people just seem to have a proclivity towards abusing whatever the system is. This normally ends up in over-regulation and ruins it for all the responsible folk.

iGo review here

These seem so different, is there a comparison between the 2018 and the older versions

Bruce always optimistic lol

Damn it is snowing again :(

@WhiteMountainsNH I am in the same boat I used to ride the MS150 with a road bike and moved to C. Conway and now the mountains and years have me seeking an e-bike for this area. @Alaskan moved from Bridgton to C. Conway small world it is

I could see using the Juggernaut MX 1000 to commute if I could get the 29 x 3" wheels and street tires.

Who manufactures the mid-drive on the Veloc R48M

@elyhim My local bike shop is 2.5 hrs. away so that is an issue. Most repairs I will do myself as I do with all my motorcycles. My job keeps me busy from 5:00 am - 5:00 pm so a reliable low maintenance E-bike is high on my list.

@PCDoctorUSA I have been going back and forth on the DYI it seems that it is not less expensive than say a RadPower or Juiced type but you would end up with better bits and pieces for the same dollars. You can go really cheap bike, battery and ebay kit not really getting something safe in...

28 mph is fine I am looking for climbing power in a comfortable commuter.

I am having trouble deciding myself between a nicely designed as @MisterM would call euro bike and what seems to be a high power Bafang bike. Trouble is my LBS does not carry these high power Bafangs to try one against the other euro bikes. The other thing is battery replacement cost. I love...

"The Ultra has too much torque for the Nexus." I wonder how the Nuvinci would handle the torque

Stunner is mid drive with 7 speed internal hub Shimano Nexus gears I can see where the Speedsters would make a big difference. https://www.biktrix.com/collections/bikes/products/biktrix-stunner?variant=54785500181

@TForan Do you use street tires? It would be nice if the Stunner came with the Ultra motor

@mrgold35 I can only imagine that tire drag would have a major effect as well. Back when I was in my late thirties early forties I got back into bicycles started with an old steel 10 speed. My son wanted to ride the MS150 ride in Maine so after 20 years of not riding I oiled up this old ten...

@Bob G Cool old school one of kind. I like it. Thanks for the info

Thank you @Mr. Coffee

@Mr. Coffee You mentioned your Pedego 7 speed lagged on some steep hills this is a geared hub drive correct? If so is it a Bafang? I am wondering how the same 7 speed would be with a mid-drive.