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Thank you Greydog for letting me know... Will check these out - Tod

Greydog, thanks for the added info... I ended up with a squirrelly-looking hybrid Mcgiver approach that actually worked for my old back...

I've already maxed out the stem raising and angle with adapters similar to the ones you mentioned. Really need a high profile straight bar, and will probably have to lengthen cables. Too bad they don't make Tiagra hydraulic levers that definitely fit, huh?

Larry, thanks so much for sharing all this great research with me about what's involved to switch out the Civante bars... makes it clear what's needed. Regards - Tod

I got the Shimano chain and it's so much better. Cleaner shifting, and just a smoother pedaling feel overall. Great idea, thanks

Thank you all for your ideas...it helps me a lot to clarify my options -

Thanks. ... to me it looks like the Bl -4700 isn't for hydraulic brakes... That's why I was trying to find one that is. ... Maybe I'm wrong

Unfortunately, need to go with something that allows me to sit even more upright than the riser/flare bars. So you're saying to get new calipers to go with the brake levers?

Really like everything about the Civante.. anybody know what flat bar brake lever set is compatible with the tiagra hydraulic brakes?

So due to back problems, looking to swap my Civante dropbars for straight ones...having trouble finding any available shifter and brake components to make this handlebar switch. I've seen they make some that work, but no availability for at least several months or indefinite. Anyone have ideas...

Oski, - cassette should be fine, especially since it's shifting well now with the new chain. I think longevity can depend on how "smoothly" you routinely shift it...

Great info about the chain as well... can't beat someone's direct experience with a replacement part

Thanks for the info, this is good to know

Hey Dave, since you mentioned the difficulty of adding things to the Civante bars, I have to share what I did to help compensate for a bad back... needed an even more upright riding position then I could get with extenders, so I added on this kids bar set, and even though it looks funky, my back...

No simple comparison chart as far as I know -choice depends on what you want in an Ebike... features, cost, etc. If you have specific questions, this forum is a great place to ask. Yes, the bikes can be taken to any authorized Yamaha bike dealer for service - I bought mine online.

Really interested in what you find out, and can always count on your reviews. You've already cost me a few hundred dollars in Civante add-ons, lol...

Why did you choose the Wahoo roam, Dave.. what added benefits over RWGPS on the cell phone?

A few questions for you guys...I also use RWGPS and isn't gradient shown on their phone map readout as a standard element? When you talk about "power" readings are you referring to a program that actually can show a power measure (watts) on a blue tooth connected display on the Civante? That...