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Just turned the bike on and saw the notification, will post what i find different after update. (fingers crossed for revamped navigation!!!)

The lid catch is right on the very tip of the cover, mine snaps firmly. You may need a new one, my LBS wouldnt sell me one, ie likely free if you ask

2022s are "out" can't spot any differences https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJgtiGR-qh1YSFjan3L0xKw obviously I expect kiox models to sport the new Bosch system but all NYONs/Rohloffs look the same.

As I am not a Bosch software engineer, my only option is to use an alternative navigation solution . However, for me, the main differentiating/advertised feature of the Nyon is broken. No one should settle for this! Although you're trying to help, I strongly disagree with your opinion that it is...

Yes, I "upgraded" from Kiox to Nyon. For me, with nav broken, I wish I didn't. I'd love to switch back to my mounted phone for navigation but the USB out on Nyon (as opposed to Kiox) doesnt charge devices, so I'm stuck with tucking my phone in a pocket and using my earbuds for turn-by-turn audio...

Yes, I'm very aware of the entire new ecosystem, which is all the more frustrating and telling that Nyon is "legacy" Kiox magnets are beyond secure and unless you take a tumble, will stay put. Smartphone Hub is a janky spring latch and not even comparable. Keep in mind, the ability to adjust...

If you need navigation and live in the US, go kiox and a decent phone or nav mount. Nyon nav in the US is abysmal and there is no indication from Bosch it will be will be revamped (entirely) Nyon will also not charge your phone. Although newer, I fear Nyon is a lame duck as Bosch is pushing...

You can test how it routes (the directions it provides from point A to B) on the phone app, or Nyon itself. GPS is solid and it knows where you are in actual use but the routing back-end is abysmal. I live very close to all 3 bridges connecting Brooklyn to Manhattan and it tries to route me to a...

That's quite the hypothetical, for navigation in case you get lost, carry a phone? If your Nyon breaks you wouldn't be able to power on your bike so yeah you can buy 2 Nyons but more importantly, how do you sleep at night then, do you have 2 of everything? (just being cheeky, no offense intended)

Some of us hate this look: and yes, I agree, the search for the holy grail of any tech device will limit you almost always. However, I'm still saddened and frustrated by the advertised feature of navigation being a complete non-starter on Nyon '21! @ava1ar, you mentioned you're in NYC, Nyon...

Nyon 2021 navigation is awful here in the US. I miss my Kiox and phone mount (charge phone from Kiox) Nyon does not provide usb charge port and together with a phone makes my sleek cockpit look ridiculous with 2 large screens. I hope they update/overhaul Nyon navigation soon, currently it is...

I have not had this happen but I dont think it goes all the way to 85% before switching to the other battery. It likely operates like discharge where it charges 5-6% per battery before switching; I may be wrong. Which of your 2 batteries didnt charge the 500W or the downtube 625W? I had a recent...

I have experienced this a few times, I toggled the feature off then back on in the Nyon interface and it went away.

And especially since the SD also has a mountain bike SKU on the same basic platform, they need to engineer more of a significant weight loss (not just rack and fenders) and modern rear geometry.

its OpenStreetMaps I thought which does have bike path routing between Manhattan & Brooklyn.

I'm guessing nothing this year for SD, Nyon is the "preferred" cockpit config for this adventure bike. Nyon is currently not compatible with Smart System or 750 battery. If they do make changes I expect them to come mid-cycle (pun intended) like how the 625W downtube '21s released 6 months after...

There are 3 world famous bridges that connect Brooklyn to Manhattan in probably the worlds most famous city. Why does Nyon 21 want to route me over a ferry boat in order to travel between them? I know I have already voiced my frustrations here about the Nyon BUT this is a 100%...

what he said! Open the Bosch connect app on your phone so you get the phone connected icon on your Nyon, weather should sync then

Nyon '21 already has in-device firmware update for the Nyon itself, hopefully they can extend to motor system and it isnt hardware prohibitive; anyone know if motor updates for current Gen4 require shops to connect directly to the motor? Nyon '21 also already has ride customization, albeit for...

Nyon '21 was released in well, 2021.