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    Are mid drives just naturally less zippy than hub motors?

    throttle refers to the thumb throttle , no pedaling "throttle only" refers to using the bike like a motorcycle I was saying if I move the left throttle in just 1/2 way the bike will jump up off the ground like a wheelie and throw the rider off , it has that much torque the bike weighs about...
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    Are mid drives just naturally less zippy than hub motors?

    If I hit the throttle 1/2 way on my mid drive off the line the front tire will wheelie off the ground there is so much torque and it will buck the rider off like a horse. I added some weight to the frame using a larger shark battery pack. This helped with the torque pull and made the drivability...
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    Are mid drives just naturally less zippy than hub motors?

    So I sold my mid drive and the gentlemen who bought it was doing a test drive was pulling up a steep hill in the highest gear. I said you need to understand how mid-drives work. He didn't seem to understand the concept of starting in 1st gear at a red light and using lower gears for hills. Then...
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    Are mid drives just naturally less zippy than hub motors?

    I'm building a triple hub with mid drive , just because. This will end all debates. 2 hub motors up front , one in the rear and a mid drive. 😆
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    Upcoming FLX Weapon

    Any reviews of the Blade 2.0 using the Rohloff? All I see on youtube are the FLX videos from a year ago. But no actual private owner reviews. Just interested to see how the Rohloff handles torque.
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    Are mid drives just naturally less zippy than hub motors?

    So would you agree that your hub motor is naturally more zippy than your mid drive? Do you have the ludicrous controller or is it the stock controller? The newer v2 controller pushed out 4000 watts. That is a massive front hub motor. So again we're comparing a Porshe Turbo to a Honda Civic...
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    Are mid drives just naturally less zippy than hub motors?

    That picture had me rolling. 🤣
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    Are mid drives just naturally less zippy than hub motors?

    I've already built one and it ran excellent. Better then expected to be honest. The SAVA frames are really strong. Don't buy a frame from Aliexpress though , you might get a counterfeit . The guy at SAVA trained in Germany , they make some great one piece carbon frames. I had over 1000+ miles...
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    Are mid drives just naturally less zippy than hub motors?

    Again I think you're comparing a well tuned Honda Civic turbo hub motor to a classic high torque wide open V8 camaro like mid-drive motor. Once you dial in a mid -drive it's really more power in every gear. Because every gear has power. It's just straight mechanics of how the motors propel the...
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    Are mid drives just naturally less zippy than hub motors?

    yes that's my next build , I've got a rohloff in box , but I'm still looking for the right donor bike some say the rohloff can handle the torque some say they can't I'm just gonna test it myself using the bbs02 motor and 52v battery I do have a friend with a hummingbird carbon folder I may see...
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    Are mid drives just naturally less zippy than hub motors?

    Impressive , my folder could do that with just throttle only . I live in the mountains and tested it some inclines like that , super scary. But I purpose built it for climbing like that. That rider is doing some serious pedaling.
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    Are mid drives just naturally less zippy than hub motors?

    He was saying mid-drives feel more natural IF YOU THE RIDER know how to drive a manual transmission like a car manual transmission. If you're uncomfortable with manually shifting gears and want an automatic transmission like car then get a hub motor. If you don't have good knowledge of...
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    Zipped Past a Want-A-Be Lance Armstrong

    I've so been tempted to do that. Now that I know some are willing I may offer.
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    Are mid drives just naturally less zippy than hub motors?

    Are hub motors more zippy than mid-drives? NO they are not more quick or speedy If I compare a 250 watt mid drive to a 3000 watt hub motor and say that hub motors are more 'zippy' isn't an apples to apples comparison. When comparing apples to apples 750 watt mid drive versus a 750 watt hub...
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    Are mid drives just naturally less zippy than hub motors?

    For what it's worth I find those specialized vados to be underpowered. They're primariy built towards the European market with high restrictions on wattage and top speed etc. They're basically neutered ebikes ,IMO.
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    Are mid drives just naturally less zippy than hub motors?

    My folding carbon bike with BBS02 has 120nm of torque. Think of a V6 in a Honda Civic. It's crazy zippy , like 'keep your orthopedic surgeon on speed dial zippy'. Combine 120nm with a super light carbon fiber folding bike that weighs 40lbs and you can kind of get an idea. The big problem I've...
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    SHOW us YOUR PIX here .... Odd, WeiRd ,UnUSuAl or EyE CaTchIng things from your rides

    I would say about 2 blocks , I found quite a few of them. They are located on a hilly area next to a lake. Bear Creel Trail in Asheville,NC.
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    SHOW us YOUR PIX here .... Odd, WeiRd ,UnUSuAl or EyE CaTchIng things from your rides

    Found this weird bunker like thing on a trail. Any ideas? When I climbed on top of it. It appeared to have a large metal door on top. I found two of em.
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    Are mid drives just naturally less zippy than hub motors?

    Mid drives depend more on what gear you are in to feel zippy. If you're climbing a hill on an 11th teeth rear sprocket it's gonna be slow. Shift down into a larger gear like a 32t tooth and hit the throttle and my bike will literally throw you off like a horse. So if that's isn't zippy then...
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    Are mid drives just naturally less zippy than hub motors?

    Get on my mid-drive and hit throttle full and you'll be on your...you know what. Mid-Drives eat hub motors lunch for torque and hill climbing ability. I didn't encounter one hub motor around me that even climb the hills my little bike could , they all stalled 1/2 way. Just hit throttle and...
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