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Thanks. I'll do that.

33 miles all in turbo doesn't sound bad at all. I guess you just needed a more powerful bike.

Thanks @Thomas Jaszewski and @J.R. I wasn't aware you can add a torque sensor to a hub drive. Does it work as well as a mid drive?

I see. I found a Dapu hub kit, but it didn't mention anything about a torque sensor...

J.R. 250W should be enough. How was your Dapu in terms of feel when you pedal?

Thomas, I haven't ridden these two so I can't comment. I've tried the HD and it just didn't feel quite "natural". Can it be tweaked to work without a torque sensor? I can ride a Lectric XP (500w hub motor with 10.4ah) battery 45 miles on mix of flat and hills. I imagine a bike with...

It looks like besides the M series, non of the Bafang motors have a torque sensor. Maybe the tech isn't there yet.

The step thru has a lower bottom bracket. If you want to have proper leg extension on your pedaling and also be able to reach the ground when stopped, you'll want the step through. I have the "regular" version and with the seat extended properly, I have to hop off at stops. There's no way I...

Thank you. I guess it boils down to how efficient Bafang mid drives really are. There actually aren't too many options for "natural" riding.

I'm thinking of a build. If I were to buy one, I think I'd go with Specialized Turbo Creo SL or Trek Domane+ HP. Both have great range.

21ah battery... that's got to be heavy! If the Bafang is programmed to run at low power, can it run it efficiently? I don't need all that power, but if it's natural, that's a big plus. Looking at bikes like Specialize turbo creo, it's a tiny 250w motor with 320wh battery, but can get 80...

I'm interested in a long range ebike that I can pedal naturally. Any suggestions on a efficient mid drive that's not going to suck battery power? I'm fairly fit and ride a regular bike as well as 2 other ebikes so I'm willing to sweat. I want to avoid carrying giant batteries. If I can build...

That's really too bad. I've seen their regular bikes and they are very nice-esp for the price!

I've gone through both the US and global website and it looks like there's just no way to get Canyon ebikes shipped to the U.S. I've emailed them, but no responses yet.

Nothing to see... It's like reporting people getting hurt in car accidents.

If you can do it without folding is much easier. There's really no easy way to do it folded unless you have a high curb to back your SUV up against.

My Garmin Forerunner watch. Keeps track of my heart rate and can help me stay in different zones. Also is a great cycling computer.

It's hard to talk about this without bringing up politics. Much of the manufacturing cost is prohibitively high because of regulations. Labor rates for one is a huge factor. There are many rules that hamper US industries to domestically produce or source materials. For example, there's only...

Other things to consider: Rack as an extension to the bike. It's not how much it can carry but how it can affect the dynamic of the bike. It can affect the balance of the bike greatly-to a point where it might do a wheelie if you hit bump. Can the rear wheel handle the weight? Suspension...

Labor rate much higher than parts rate...