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Point taken Not Sam, I tried to stay out of this thread and forgot myself.. I really did want to see what people thought of their bikes.. I shall try to observe only for a while :)

agreed on all but the claimed charge time JoePah, there were no caveats on the claimed charge time. Sondors got it wrong.

FTC complaint@ glad that Sondors attended to the reversed forks issue so quickly, it proves that they can respond electronically to issues in a timely manner when it suits them, which makes it so much harder to fathom their recalcitrance on this issue at other times.

Hurley I thought PAS was mentioned just before manufacturing began? (I've tried to keep out of this thread, sorry).

SamIAmNot@ guess I'd be one of the Negative Ninnies also, I post as Theodore Voltaire on IGG, this place started out pretty friendly and seems to be on that path now, its amazing how being treated poorly tends to make you return the favour, and at the opposite end of the scale, how being treated...

different backgrounds make it hard to be sure how much difference there is.. probably not the best place to penny pinch on a heavier bike, but I suppose it was built to a price, honestly, if I were speccing a bike, its probably not something I'd give a lot of thought to, but I'm certainly no...

Sorry, not getting the "Hmmm"? what are we comparing here? spoke thickness?

"Crowd funding is an unreliable investment" I understand that, not everybody does, we all have a different IQ and skill set. "People should know better".. agreed, they should, but they don't, if they did, Nigerian princes all over the internet would be starving. Crowd funding grew from people...

If / when Storm defaults on his debt to Agency 2.0 could this campaign still be considered a success? I don't know that I would be comfortable sponging on somebody else in order to receive a bike. would be akin to knowingly purchasing stolen goods I reckon.

Not one person paid out only $499 and will (might) get a bike, the least you could pay for a bike is $693, now the bike cant be had for less than $843 in the US. I guess its easy for you to say Storm kept his promises, He's like big brother, if a statement doesn't fit the facts, just change it...

Engine spec has changed, PowerMe, it now has a bigger motor, I'm just guessing it will be heavier

Oh my God, they put the front brake cable into the left lever instead of the right... That would make Sondors something akin to a war criminal... IF those of us warning against Sondors were anywhere near as anal as those who are concerned about our concerns were right... :) Blue bike looks...

Too busy concentrating on blatantly false specs, Sondors previous and upcoming fraud related court cases, Sondors passing $190k in bad cheques, not answering questions as he was contractually required to do, The five hundred plus thousand dollars he owes agency 2.0 and how that will impact on...

emailembedLinkFollowingStory Updates 46 Comments 8,974 Funders 14,711 3 hours ago Good news! U.S. Customs is going A LOT smoother and quicker than initially thought. In fact, UPS tracking IDs are already starting to be assigned and emailed out to backers for the first few containers of Black...

I generally have trouble quoting here, either the quote doesnt show in the comments field, or the page refreshes to the home page, or it just goes to white and freezes, this doesn't just happen for quoting, it also happens when I click on a subject to view, so generally I just cut and paste...

George S Said (QUOTE) The way this deal was structured was individual people buying from China. (END) . Since none of us know for sure, I guess everything we say here is conjecture, but UPS has been contracted to provide logistical support. On none of the pictures of Sondors Boxes being...

George S, I've always wanted to see funders get their bikes, and for those bikes to be of an acceptable quality. BUT, if I were a competitor in the market, and found that storm was side stepping costs that I had to pay, would I try to find a way to shut him down? you bet I would. By using...

pxpaulx said.... @wa5 you did kinda use Hitler in an analogy, that was in quite poor taste any way you slice it. END. Yes in comparing really lousy delivery time for the Copenhagen and FlyKly in comparison to Storms as yet undelivered product.. and how people should expect better, NOT ONCE did...

JoePah waffled on with some insulting garbage QUOTE Have to wonder if any of our lovely trolls made some kind of allegation to US Customs to damage Storm's project? Based on their baseless comments and libelous statements, probably a lot more likely than anything Storm has done that cause a...

Not too many "successful" people are purchasing a bottom shelf product like the storm, they generally buy quality bikes like the BMW for example. I don't think anybody on this forum would equate E Bikes to Hitler, we are here because we are interested in them. Storm has been spectacularly...