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    Ruff eBikes enter US market

    Looks a little like the Vintage line of ebikes with the same price point too. I do like the looks of Vintage better though. My Dad had an old Indian bike in the 60s and I have always liked the look.
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    Hi From Westport Ireland

    Welcome to the site. Show us a pic of your ebike.
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    E-bike bursts into flames on Australian hill climb

    A fire like that most likely wasn't caused by a speed control or motor. They don't burn that bad. I'm sure the battery was the cause. In order for the battery to go up like that, there had to be a short in his battery pack. My guess is there was a loose wire or the cells came loose in the pack...
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    Yet another CCX owner

    My mid drive bike has no throttle cut off and I don't see that I need it. Stop pedaling and the motor quits.
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    Safety Labels

    Heat is your best friend when removing stickers. Solvent is for any glue residue left over.
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    No Bafang used by mainstream bike manufactures.

    Not surprising a test done in Germany and those people picked a German brand name. I wonder what people in China will pick? Maybe Bafang:)
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    Charging to 80% without a Satiator

    bikerjohn It makes me happy to see you now understand what I was trying to say. Your 45v cutoff is probably a good one but you know how to tell if it's good by checking your resting voltage. Once you figure out your LVC, you can forget about it and enjoy your bike. One other thing that wasn't...
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    Charging to 80% without a Satiator

    I would be a little weary of cycle claims. The way they cycle the battery is under a very low amp draw and in a relatively short period of time. So they will tend to get better results than in real world say ebikes do. There numbers are however right in that you get more cycles with less charge...
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    Charging to 80% without a Satiator

    Here is a good article that explains the difference. https://scottiestech.info/2015/06/21/lithium-polymer-vs-lithium-ion-batteries-whats-the-deal/
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    Charging to 80% without a Satiator

    42v for 20% works out to 3.2 volts per cell. Not ideal and not recommended. If someone wanted to test 42v as a LVC they could but I would start at 45v and see where i'm at before going lower.
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    Charging to 80% without a Satiator

    I'm not sure exactly what the juice chart is for. What i don't like is the juice chart uses 3 volts as there 100% discharge. Well I know that's not right because the industry uses the chart I posted. So using 3v and 4.2 gives different numbers that I don't believe are correct. It's hard to say...
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    Charging to 80% without a Satiator

    Your post is exactly correct. LVC is another chart. You might be able to use 44 or 45 volts as your cut off. But then verify your resting voltage and fine tune it from there. LVC will change a little as your battery ages. The way it will change is you will use a lower LVC but always verify...
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    Charging to 80% without a Satiator

    Great job devhead. That chart looks perfect. The test I’ve seen on cycle life show charging to 4.1 offers many more cycles over 4.2. So I would charge a little higher than 80% if looking for more miles on a charge. But I wouldn’t get them by discharging past the 20% mark. If the 80/20 works for...
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    Charging to 80% without a Satiator

    It's not my definition. It comes from the scientist in the industry. When I read about it they said the scientist wanted a way to differentiate from the metal cylinder cells. Since both are li-ion. It of course also stands for lithium polymer too. If you do a search you can find both definitions.
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    Charging to 80% without a Satiator

    I was wrong to call an 18650 a lipo. I use the term lipo so much in my business I tend to call anything with lithium in it a lipo. So my apologies for that. But this thread is about voltage percentages and everything else I posted was correct. i don't like being accused of posting false info. My...
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    No Bafang used by mainstream bike manufactures.

    Another thing that wasn't already touched on is dealer price. Manufacturers expect a certain percentage on there discount to consider using you. I wouldn't be surprised if bafang, with it's already low price to consumers, couldn't agree to a price low enough to satisfy the big makers.
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    Charging to 80% without a Satiator

    This thread got out of hand and I apologize for being part of it. The initial question is about voltage percentage. If you want to run your pack down to say 25%, on a 48 volt or 13s battery, your resting voltage after you turn your bike off, should be 13x 3.75 = 48.75. Or close to that. When you...
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    Charging to 80% without a Satiator

    And here is a link on the different types of li-ion. http://synergyfiles.com/2015/09/5-types-of-lithium-ion-batteries/
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    Charging to 80% without a Satiator

    Here is a good link on 18650 cells and where i got some of my info. Check out all 3 pages. https://electronics.howstuffworks.com/everyday-tech/lithium-ion-battery2.htm
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    Charging to 80% without a Satiator

    Wow Ravi Let me start by saying a video posted to youtube made by some guy who bought some cells tells nothing and I wonder why you even posted that. Your graph below that is incorrect too. The part where it says Chances of explosion, lipos are safe from explosion. Ask the many people who...
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