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You say you compared your creo and domane + slr on the highest setting. I wonder if you had the domane pedal response set to 100%, along with its support and max power settings. I read other owners say that with the pedal response maxed out the torque/power comes on early and then feels like it...

Yeah, that seems to be a typo/mistake. Other docs that have been taken down said 48 volts.

I’ve been following an e mountain bike forum for early news about the SL updates and multiple people posted today with leaked specs for the new Levo SL. Since the current Levo SL uses the same motor as the Vado SL and creo, it seems safe ti assume this next gen. will as well. The new motor is...

Good luck, the 80% charge limit worked fine for me for about 6 or 7 charges and then started going to 100% again. So far the last 4 charges have gone to 100 so I’m going back to my old method of just estimating the time and unplugging the charger before it reaches full charge.

Here’s a very thorough article on the TQ motor noise, complete with sound samples comparing to other bikes and graphs comparing them at different cadences. https://blog.trekbikes.com/en/2022/07/12/fuel_exe_bicycle_acoustics/

That would seem to be the best strategy to make their bike stand out from the rest. That’s assuming spec can best the TQ, which won’t be easy.

Looks like Pinarello just joined the TQ motor club with road and gravel versions. That makes Trek, BMC, Scott and now Pinarello. I wonder what specialized has in mind to compete. Seems like they have to either join the club or put out a big upgrade to their motor...

Yes, I have a creo with the older tcu and the 80% charge option works on mine. I got the update a few weeks ago and can confirm that the charge stops at 80% now. There is an on-off option in M C so you’re free to use it or not.

I have a creo and have had a couple of crank clicks. Mine happened both with and without the motor on. Two more things to check, besides the splined crank collar you already checked: Retorque the chainring bolts. That took care of my click for a while. Check the plastic motor cover. It’s held...

Yeah, I’ll keep you posted if I ever find a solution or explanation. I’ve never used Smart Control so I don’t know if mine would act the same. I don’t get the feeling that the rider care techs or my lbs techs have any idea what I’m talking about. I even sent rider care a Blevo csv file that...

Thanks Stefan. And before I got my Creo I had a Vado sl for six months that I had tested the same way after reading your ( and mschwett’s) detailed analysis. That bike did perform like you say (roughly 1.8 X rider input + 20% for the motor electrical energy conversion). I never bothered to test...

Paul, I’m glad to see your post here because I have similar experience with my Creo that I have confirmed many times with both the Blevo app and the specialized rider app. My eco and sport mode do not use the 1.8X factor, it’s more like a 1.2X multiplication factor which makes the mechanical...

I have last year’s pre-mastermind creo and I just got the latest updates last week. My “Tune” tab in Mission Control now has the Charge Limit feature. It was turned off by default but it does turn on. I know from reading automotive EV battery studies that the 20-80% guidelines do significantly...

I am lucky to live where I am away from any congested area in ten minutes, then on rural highways and roads for the most part. In the most congested areas my Varia does pick up traffic that would not be a hazard. Even then I like that it shows the concentration of traffic and its relative...

My Garmin Varia radar tail light is the best accessory I’ve bought for a bike. It has been 100% reliable and my Garmin computer turns it on and off for me when I start and end a ride. I don’t get false positives, sometimes it picks up a car in the other lane that isn’t a threat, but I’d rather...

I’ll add my tubeless conversion experience here for anyone else considering it (I’m the O.P.) I finally wore out my stock specialized turbo pros that came with my Creo carbon comp. I got a pair of Continental gp 5000 s tr’s, 700 x 32 last week. I was surprised how easily they mounted. I used a...

If anyone has a chance to test ride any of the TQ motor road bikes, I hope you post a thorough report. I’m especially interested in the motor noise level and feel compared to a creo. I do see that the trek geometry is much closer to the relaxed geometry of the creo than the others.

Why is that a bad thing? It seems easier to have more faith in a motor system being used by multiple brands than a proprietary system used or licensed by a single brand.