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If the Tero 4 were available in the US it would be more than tempting. The Tero X 4 is full suspension, which I have trouble seeing in front of the grocery. Given the current situation, riding the Tero 3 or the Talon E+ will work for a while. Any recommendations on which? or an alternative?

Thanks for the input BenJ. No question that the Powerfly 4 felt way more powerful- 85 vrs 50Nm. But the setup almost required use of eco mode the whole time. On the Tero and the Talon and more so on the Double Peak i/O it was easy riding the first miles without motor assist. It is a shame the...

It's been quite the education, riding so many brands and models. The basic criteria have been: Class 1; Somewhat rideable without motor assist; Mid mounted motor with torque sensor; Front suspension; Removeable battery in the down tube; hardish $4k price ceiling; and not least LBS that sells and...

Congrats on the new bike! I'm weighing it and the Tero 3.0. How do you like the Alivio drivetrain? Which dropper did you add? Was the cable installed through the frame? Are you using the Ant+ interface? Sorry for all the questions, these are issues I'm concerned about. Hope you have many...

Moved to 'Help Choosing a bike' forum. Please excuse my misplacement.

Thanks for the info. It sure exceeds what most 'displays' show. So you need a sensor on a pedal to get cadence info and another on one of the hubs for speed. Is there a sensor that can show torque and recommends shifting? As I test ebikes with the motor on, I never know when the situation...

Nice, clean looking bike! What info do you gain from the Garmin that is not available from the bikes display? Best wishes for many happy miles ahead.

Thanks for the suggestions Trevor. The Moustache Xroad sure looks interesting, but their website shows the closest LBS to be in CA- I'm in Colorado's Front Range. The Vado 4 SL I rode in the fall had no suspension, and the sales rep said the tires would have to be less than 700x50. I'm seeing a...

Thanks for the suggestion. I've looked at Moustache before, they are above my $4k ceiling and weigh 60ish lbs. My goal, perhaps not achievable is to bike primarily without assist until the last miles home or until coming to that hill that just got steeper. In my late 70s I'm finding a dropper...

Here is a link https://bikes.com/blogs/stories/an-intro-to-the-all-new-powerplay to the company propaganda Youtube has a number of reviews as well as tests/comparisons with the Dyname / Bosch / Yamaha / .... Happy viewing. To me it seems a lot of bike for $3400 Add a Garmin and it seems...

As always, thanks for your input. Unfortunately I have a firm $4k ceiling. After taxes, upgraded locks, car hitch, and transport rack, don't ask, don't tell about the final $$s.

Yes the 2 are quite similar (?!?), but the X 4 vrs the 3 has a very different components aside from being FS vrs hardtail- Drive train- SRAM 12 speed vrs Shimano 9; Front suspension- Rockshox Recon vrs Suntour XCM; TranzX dropper post vrs none. When looking at the 3 which is safely in my...

So how stupid is it to buy a new bike and upgrade it to what you think would be better? A Specialized Turbo Tero 4 hardtail is pretty much what I'd like, but yikes there is none. https://www.specialized.com/us/en/turbo-tero-x-4-0/p/200360?color=323886-200360 So how bad would it be to buy the...

So Rocky Mountain ebikes just poped onto my radar. I'm looking for a hardtail with mid motor, class 1, torque sensor, preferably under 50lb so that it may be ridden withour motor until my age kicks in, and under $4k. The Fusion 10 and Growler 30 seem to check a lot of boxes. Anyone have any...

How would you rate the suspension stem versus front shocks for absorbing bumps and vibrations?

Do you find that those seat and seat post mods help your elbows too? Relief from elbow soreness after a bouncy ride, is the reason I'm focusing on front suspension. I guess a more upright position could help take weight off the hands and arms, but that would require a mindset mod. ;-)

For me, riding on washboard roads, the lack of front suspension was a key factor for not choosing the Turbo Vado sl.

My deepest sympathies to you and the rest of the family of a 70 year old out there and trying new skills. -Stuart 78

Unfortunately it is the tero 3.0 that fits within my $4k budget. But yeah, seeing the SRAM cassette and the dropper post, who knows what evil lurks.

I just love hijacks, thanks. Since the bionic knee, I'm doing morning stretches 4-5 times a week on a yoga mat. Does that count?