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With 10,000 bikes; and the conduct of the campaign; I am certain that there will me a major issue (accident, fire, explosion, injury, death), and there will be no recourse as Storm will be insolvent and "immune to lawsuits." The fly-kly (with a small number of units sold) is a more considered...

The best friction ebike I have seen was ridden by Robert Redford in a film "Three Days of the Condor" as it was a high-tech bike an intellectual CIA book reader would use.

The only "utility" the box provides; is marketing, but on the positive side, it is the only design feature that is "not part of a standard Chinese ebike," as it adds cost without function. No, Sondors is not the only person to put batteries in a triangle box (or bag) within the frame. BUT...

Friction wheels have been around and used mostly unsucessfuly for a long time

Why is this fellow managing the campaign?

I raise you one; Centinel Wheel on Kickstarter; https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/hycore/centinel-wheel-all-in-one-smart-bike-wheel The Centinel wheel is not to be confused with either the Centennial Wheel or the Copenhagen Wheel, or even the Fly Kly...

The structure of crowd-funding has been designed to put the consumer at a distinct disadvantage in relation to the platform. It can be argued, and I think successfully, that you are purchasing a good in this instance. "This crowd-funding is to raise the funds to develop a piece of software...

Yes, well the Wave bike, is another illustration of "good marketing" in "crowd-funding" complete with copycat "false advertising" claims. They even have a guy that looks like Storm complete with a Jon Hopp look alike "manufacturing genius." The campaign is just as funny, but will be less...

Yes, well I would say using words like "kill" are not doing you any good. By all means post here, but I would advise you to stop stoking a flame war over on IGG. To some extent, Sondors is self destructing as evidenced by the lawsuit, it will take time for a guy with $5,000,000 in his...

Some of your many posts on IGG don't read well! IGG and Facebook are being used, by the emotionally invested, to fill the vacuum that Storm left in his wake. The noise on IGG and Facebook does not replace Sondors, it just blocks realization and fact finding. Those venues are totally...

I don't care to personalize fact. If you bought a bike it is your personal responsibility to ask for a refund, as the campaign has not been honest and responsible to you. Folks on IGG and Facebook have taken it upon themselves to fill a vacuum; that vacuum exists because Storm (as a deadbeat...

The idea of building your own bike is to learn everything you can in a few core fields; motors, batteries, bicycles, mechanics, electronics. When you look for an "expensive" e:bike to buy you use sites such as EBR to do research, you might visit a store, might read reviews, or you might learn...

Facts get in the way of emotions; this fellow is talking about confirmation bias the moral of the story is the same for Sondors. People have to find out the story about Storm is not true and they are going to fight the pain of realization with zeal even after it is all over., the blogger...

7-25-2015 Seems to be the next court date; I think the motions are beginning to flow; there is a rumor there is a motion to quash to be heard in Nov; probably based on invalid service or an order by the court to continue; after having lost the ability to dismiss the case in the first hearing...

Every Contributor Has Been Screwed - Assume they get a bike; they are not getting post sales support, regulatory and safety testing, product liability insurance, and warranty. Nor are they going to get the product that was represented to them. In other words, they are buying an incomplete...

In this campaign, the information flow was carefully managed to preclude and/or to stop the asking of questions integral for vetting or understanding the veracity of the offer. The questions regarding liability insurance, post-sales customer support, testing, and regulatory compliance were...

This has nothing to do with feelings; I have "done my job" by alerting people to inconsistencies in this offering prior to the lawsuit, following through with several members of the press, drafting complaints that can be filed with the FTC and CA AG, and by pointing out the recourse you have at...

Yep, you can outline facts to someone who is delusional and it will have no effect. The lawsuit is "a major factual red flag" that would be hard for anyone with logic or common sense to ignore even if they know nothing about ebikes and the business of selling them. The correct course of action...

Fact; 1) No product liability insurance 2) No margin to provide customer support 3) No regulatory compliance 4) No safety testing 5) Misrepresentations in law and in fact, false advertising 6) Failure to pay vendors as evidenced by a lawsuit 7) Near 25% gross lost to marketing costs This...

Sondors is really an illustration of greed; --The press in the crowd funding space who were looking for a viral campaign and thus readership and advertising. to include yahoo, la times, business insider, cnet --The folks buying this bike who think they are getting a bargain --Sondors - Who...