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Please all, let's leave the politics at home. I don't want to go down the dyfunctional American political scene on an ebike forum.

None of the above., I am strictly a road rider.

The Vado series was just launched on May 18 in the US and were not orderable prior to that. They have been available in Europe before this. That none of us have these is not surprising.

I believe the motor is bolted in in such a way as to make it structural. I am quite sure it would not be welded in and non-removable. If you look here: https://www.specialized.com/us/en/busy-lives-call-for-faster-bikes you can see an "exploded view" that shows the mounting system for the motor...

On 9/3/16 I went 53.2 miles at ECO40 ending with 12% of battery left. This is with my older 468 Wh battery. Average 15.6 mph with 2845 ft of ascent. All logged on Strava at https://www.strava.com/activities/699305192. I now have a 691 Wh battery so the range would be proportionally longer, on...

Mark, Based on your terminology, I assume you ride a bike with a Bafang mid-drive. The Specialized Turbo doesn't use charging bars or PAS levels like some others so your terminology is not completely applicable. It is a torque sensing, DD hub, pedal assist that is very smooth unlike the...

Here is some data from a ride today. Distance was 9.95 miles each way. All data was collected using a Garmin Edge 1000 and Garmin Connect. At the end of each leg, data was uploaded to Strava. There was a positive elevation change of 200-250 feet on each leg. On the outbound leg I rode with my...

The 55lb measurement from Court is an actual number, not a mfg spec. While the 5.0 is a little less, the fork does not account for 8-9 lbs. The med frame vs a small accounts for something. Also, various other accoutrement probably factor in. Given that the battery differences are minimal in...

For pure pedal bikes, Strava will log accurate power readings IF you have a torque sensor in the crank. I know of no ebike that accurately records the combination of pedal power and motor power and provides it to a data collection system. In fact, I am unaware if any ebikes even log motor power...

With the motor no longer in the wheel, the rear wheel takes a lot less pounding. With the suspension fork, the front wheel also takes less pounding. I would guess the Vado to be just a bit lighter as well. DD hub drive has to have very heavy magnets to get adequate torque unlike geared hub or...

Steve, I ride a 2015/16 base Turbo. I find cruising at ECO 70 is a bit on the high side for range maintenance. Your numbers above suggest a range of just 22 miles which seems low. You are riding into a head wind which makes a big difference at speeds of 22-25 mph. What are your tire pressures...

Specialized base Turbo with stock 200W direct drive hub motor and the large 691Wh 36V battery from the Turbo S. I get from 40 miles (full Turbo mode) to 100 mi (ECO 30). Typical would be around 60-70 miles at ECO60. I weigh 240 lbs, am 66 years old (not too fit and not too strong). Typical...

Actually, the 2016 Turbo X is pretty much the prior generation Turbo S with suspension fork and slightly larger battery.

The Vado 3.0 and 4.0 are both Class 1 (20 mph non throttle) in the USA. The Vado 5.0 is Class 3 as are all of the earlier Turbo models.

The 2016 Turbo X is NOT the same as the 2015. The 2015 Turbo X was identical to the base Turbo except for the suspension fork. The 2016 has a 250W motor instead of 200W, it has Shimano brakes and derailleur instead of Formula/SRAM. It has a 540Wh bluetooth battery instead of 468Wh "dumb" battery.

Jwb...I wish I could tie this to build date but I just dont have that information. My attempt to identify this to model year required hours of searching reviews and announcements back through late 2012..

Just to provide some additional detail to the above discussion, I found some pictures of the internals of a dismantled SBC-B01 manufactured in 2012. This battery is presumably one of the early 342Wh ones. View from the bottom of the battery with the aluminum case pulled back. Note the 18650...

There has been a lot of discussion recently about replacement batteries and availability for the Specialized Turbo. I wanted to start this thread as an informational post targeted at the "facts" of what batteries are available, compatible, and what upgrades and/or replacements are possible...

Many thanks! List updated.

Love to share a frosty. I get out to central Ca. every once in awhile. Where r u?