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  1. Hurley

    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    Perhaps this should be in the "Unraveling" tab but here are some recent comments from the Sondors board... " bobkops 2 days ago So there aren’t any waves anymore? So if you ordered your bike first you could get it later than someone that ordered a month ago depending on color? 12-14 days...
  2. Hurley

    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    My sarcasm alarm is ringing extra loud...
  3. Hurley

    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    Hang in there Hulk. I am praying for you. You are right, safety first. This will be very interesting when the first bikes are delivered. I really like the,way Radrover ran their campaign. Looks to be exceptional value. That is the way you do a campaign. Notice how fast the campaign went. They...
  4. Hurley

    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    I am very excited for you regarding the Radrover. Seems like exceptional value and a fun bike. Keep us posted on when you get one and what you think, please!
  5. Hurley

    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    Yes, kinda like when they built the Pyramids. :)
  6. Hurley

    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    Considering all I have read--it will be very difficult for Sondors to turn a profit and looks like it would be a pretty good loss he takes per bike sold. So, why continue the campaign? Is he just trying to grab every dollar he can before "you-know-what"? Is he stalling? Will this campaign still...
  7. Hurley

    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    I said I would not post again on this thread but since it is still going strong let me say this... I believe the binding straps were for "loading" only. Afterwards they were cut off. Also, it was obviously a quick and sloppy job of putting on the binding straps which may point to temporary. One...
  8. Hurley

    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    This thread has been valuable for I'm concerned. I learned a lot. The last 3 pages have George posting 8 times so far with the last requesting the thread be locked due to over posting. kinda ironic. I want to personally thank the moderators and sincerely hope everyone gets their bikes. This will...
  9. Hurley

    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    Well most of the answers seem to rely on when the campaign ends (color, cost of shipping, refund, ect...). My bet is wave1 buyers are anxious for the campaign to end so they can get the most important questions answered. It is interesting if refunds are already occurring because that...
  10. Hurley

    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    Chris, when does the campaign end? I tried to find the end date but was unsuccessful.
  11. Hurley

    New Nitro Owner

    Shhhhhh! :)
  12. Hurley

    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    This happened on July 31, 2014... The final rule will: Enhance packaging and hazard communication requirements for lithium batteries transported by air; Replace equivalent lithium content with Watt-hours for lithium ion cells and batteries; Adopt separate shipping descriptions for lithium...
  13. Hurley

    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    The quick answer is that it magically disappeared. The longer answer is that magic has nothing to do with it. Still to this day, lies are posted on the Sondors campaign like 50 mile range & 90 minute charge. I suppose you could charge it for 90 minutes followed by peddling for 46 miles then go...
  14. Hurley

    New Nitro Owner

    Welcome to the site admccrea. You are going to love this bike. Crazy fun/power but can also be a great workout. She climbs like a beast as well. In my opinion, the Nitro is way up there in the value department compared to other E-Bikes. I got very lucky and caught a fire sale. I got my 2013...
  15. Hurley

    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    Well, you obviously have not been listening to Bruce Choate. The Sonders bike-properly using the throttle will net you over 50 miles easy. Pedal assist is a gimmick. I believe what he means is basically hardly use the throttle except for emergencies for 15 mph sprints. :) But seriously, pedal...
  16. Hurley

    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    I think in the case of Sonders bikes, the power consumed is probably better unknown. "What, I am going 12mph and consuming 330 watts!!!" That would be a nice thing already incorporated in E-Bikes. I wonder if the Stromer ST2 has that feature.
  17. Hurley

    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    Nice post. Very informative.
  18. Hurley

    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    The people are being screwed because they expected their bikes in May 2015! Clearly this is not going to happen. I personally did not know about crowd campaigns until now. In America I always assumed the laws protected us from this kind of stuff. I think most contributors believed they were...
  19. Hurley

    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    I personally don't feel sorry for Agency 2.0. Because of their great job of false advertising-all the while knowing full well Sonders would not be able to fulfill the promises by a long shot, thousands of people contributed millions of dollars. Now they are crying foul, and shocked Sonders...
  20. Hurley

    New Member/Owner of Stromer Platinum ST1

    To preserve the looks and add some suspension to the front, I don't know why they don't opt for a adjustable monoshock front fork like Eflow did. Adding a suspension fork in my opinion really takes away from the look of this beautiful bike.
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