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This runs off bike's main battery without having to do any custom wiring, adding of relays or tapping in to battery cables or wiring in dc-dc inverters. This is the first product I have seen do this for a Bafang motor system.

I am posting this to the Bafang forum because of its specific use with Bafang mid drive motor systems. Seems with a modified cable setup Luna was able to create a plug and play high powered front headlight straight to the battery and also incorporate a Bafang 500c style horizontal display in one...

Did not know that about Mopar. Very interesting. I can't say I don't always scan cars when they reach my service bay but BMW is another animal. Every BMW has fault codes stored and that all gets stored in the key fob which means BMW already knows something is up when the car is written up in the...

Not to go too off topic here but have you experienced such a thing as a rotating encryption key when tuning CAN cars? If the car has a software level that does not have such encryption the only way for that to be implemented would be to go back to the dealership for a new software update or an...

Yes the Luna X2 is advertised as having an M600 with v2 ludicrous

I see. My bike came with a Shimano Deore 10 speed that I just couldn't get adjusted correctly no matter how hard I tried and I am very mechanically proficient (this is my first bike in decades however). Local bike shops have been of no help. Did the whole SA 3 speed igh hub conversion myself...

Is the 28t rear sprocket for a sturmey archer or a customer sprocket? I have struggled to find anything bigger than a 24t and can almost never find them in stock. I had to settle for a 22t. I am stuck in a bit of a grey area. I like the down low grunt of the bigger rear sprockets but I'm losing...

Can't speak for the Ultra but my BBSHD handles a sturmey archer SX-RK3 with ease. 1500w through 44t chainring and 22t rear sprocket.

This is perfect and answers my question to the best that anyone probably can. I have the tendency to overthink things. My mind was convinced there had to be a reason that these companies known for hot rodding motors would choose an arguably less durable motor to use.

I don't know about other methods of programming other than with a cable and the free software. https://electricbike-blog.com/2015/06/26/a-hackers-guide-to-programming-the-bbs02/. Probably the best starting point article out there. But specifically for the internally geared hubs, the throttle...

This is exactly where my original line of questioning for the thread topic lies. Is there a mechanical hardware advantage in the M600 that would be more beneficial over the M620. My thought was maybe the sensor setup for torque was better. I think this would be great to know because one of the...

There is an app for your smart phone and windows based computer. So it's the end user making the changes.

I did a sturmey archer SX-RK3 swap on my BBSHD fat tire bike. I have a 44t chain ring and a 22t rear sprocket. Also used a 20t rear sprocket when the swap was first completed. Both ratios worked just fine but I enjoyed the added grunt the 22t rear gave me. I can max out in 3rd gear pedalling at...

It would be great to learn more about just how much can be tuned and altered using Luna's VESC app. From the screenshots on their website it looks like there may be a lot of customization available.

To the first point. A bike that is only in preorder and won't be in production for several more months stands no chance of shipping with UART motors w/ X1. Those are most certainly CANbus with a WW X1 that is CAN compatible. The Sondors mid drive bikes that started shipping at the beginning of...

The interesting part is in the case of Watt Wagons/Bolton, the Falcon advertises an X1 controller for the M600. That would mean they have reached the point of getting a controller to run CANbus and be programmable. Case in point their yet to be released Crosstour claims programmable to 3500w...

M600 is CANbus right?

Well that's what I'm getting at. The assumption would be the Ultra is newer and built to withstand more power so why the trend towards the M600? I honestly don't know and I'm not an authority on any motor. Has there been some kind of breakthrough with the M600? Have there been a lot of...

Watt Wagons (and by extension the collaboration with Bolton named "Falcon"), FLX, and Luna are all puting the M600 in new bikes. Is there something that is making this motor stand out as opposed to the Ultra? I assumed the Ultra to be a better motor unit overall. What am I missing?

I read the title wrong. I came here to say I have a post holiday GUT. Staying true to the topic, yes I would imagine that some lightly used bikes will be available in the secondhand market place. Now I am curious to see what's out there.