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Trek thinks their sxxxxt doesn’t stink. I am growing to dislike Trek more and more each day with ridiculous pricing and the PB policy. Don’t know if you noticed, their website reviews page for the PB have mostly public reviews with 1 or 2 officer reviews. They did not have the courtesy to...

I have observed the same , ditto, ditto. The few Trek Commuter 8s bikes sold used have been discounted from 40 to 50% off MSRP. ~1 yr bikes. That is a premium bike but I think you loose 25 % or more out the door for any ebike from new. Any buyer of a used bike takes a big risk if the bike...

I am replying here in 2019 and maybe things have changed. Not sure if they have a phone number but they (SONDORS) does have chat over their website. Maybe they recognized this need a little late.

Mike......I posted a thread before reading this one, so sorry. Yes, I agree, the new Fold XS has caught my eye for sure. Due out August 2019. All the specs you list. If it offered 28 mph, it would be near perfect and my order would already be in. Is the 20 mph version easily derestricted?

Have you seen the new bike offered with an August ship date? For $1799, the specs are pretty good. I am seriously considering this one. Any thoughts?

Excellent comments from many, David, Alex. Thank you. I needed this discussion. I was thinking of the Nissan Leaf when I made the comment about e car depreciation. I have more homework to do and will try to do the test drive as recommended. Thanks so much.

I understand $200 - $400 off is available based on model. Approx dates from May 23 thru May 27. Check for yourself, don’t take those dates as precise. I would like a commuter 8s. Don’t think this is enough to push the decision over the top.

Mikes E-bikes......Thanks so much for your thoughts and observations. I have been looking or shopping for ebikes about 1 month now. A steep learning process. But I see a very strong parallel with ‘ e cars’ . The primary driver on cost is the battery for both cars and bikes. The technology...

Bob, Here is a new eBay link that floored me. A 1 year old SC 8S being sold by a middle man and is still priced way below MSRP. So if you buy new, your depreciation is probably 50% walking out the door. Or some ridiculously high percentage. Wow. I do not know of any product that depreciates...

I don’t know if I am ready to say I see a pattern, but after visiting 2 bike shops near me, I find ebike inventories are very low. Relative to manual pedal bikes, the ratio is near 1 Ebike : 100 pedal bikes on the display floor. I will keep looking but I heard twice now, “yes, we can get...

Yes indeed. I watched a review for the Urban Plus and now cannot find any info on it. It has vanished. I also get a blank page when trying to find the nearest dealer. I don’t care if they are 500 miles away, I just need to know but I get zilch. Makes it all impossible to do business with them.

I love the design of the police ebike but after reading many of these posts, it is almost a given, everyone wants to customize the one they have. The new MSRP is $3999 so add the upgrades and you are in the 4500 to $5000 range. Am I close? Still too pricy for me sad to say. The folks finding...