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Hardtail and fork? I'm quite sure any decent upright with full suspension will be MUCH more comfortable.

Wow, not "too" patronizing.... I know some top end bike buyers and they sure as heck aren't the posers you describe. Paint color? Are you kidding? Some people appreciate real quality and are willing to spend more to get it.

Lot of loud mouths not saying much of anything in this thread.

That's your opinion. Not mine.

LOL< you haven't been in a bike shop lately !! You can spend 10k on a regular bike. My LBS has 1/4 of the store costing 3K+, all with No motors. The ones that are cheaper? Made in China now......as are many of the $3k dollar frames....

I paid about 50% off my Haibike. Right at 50 on a STromer ST1, 60% off a Easy Motion Big Bud Pro fatbike. You need to watch the clearance sales and be willing to spend off season. I laugh when people complain about $4-5,ooo bikes. I'd complain too if I was paying those prices!!

How far do you ride now? Very few people can actually spend hours on a bicycle seat. I see endless seeking for "unlimited" power for endless riding and most of the folks haven't sat on a bike seat in YEARS. For novice riders your tushy will be all used up long before 30 miles. For that much...

I played with mine 3 years ago. haven't a clue what the settings are and even then mine is the 500w. I don't think there are a lot of folks out there with these that have played with settings much less written them down.

look in the mirror! Almost everyone can get stronger, regardless of ailments and age. Exercise is one of the best things for MS and many many other diseases. Well known facts. MOST of what we percieve as a results of aging are in fact results of DIS-USE as people stop doing things because they...

You don't like working harder, but you're doing it. As YOU get stronger, the bike will too. At least in terms of giving you more boost. What you are experiencing is what I like about mid drives with good torque sensors, you have to work for the boost. Mid drives are the smallest motors used...

That surprises me given digital equipment and many people using these as commuters and other high mile usage. weird.

Well you're right about your rights. Just kind of on shaky (0k wrong) ground ethically.

To clarify: dealer support would be the support to the dealer from Haibike. You mean customer support from those Haibike dealers. Semantics ;)

You can get most bikes that list for $3500 for 3k any day of the week. Often for more off list price than that.

My st1 was silent as an Ebike could be. Not normal!!

Lets hope Glenn sees it.

My Intuvia controller ALSO won't work to select any assist levels. I button still scrolls through info screens. Gonna get some contact cleaner and try that tomorrow. Mine is out of warranty. 15 Haibike Xduro FS RX Did it a couple of times in the past but would always come back on eventually if...

Electric Bike Review reviewed a 24" fat tire bike that was pretty nice in the past month or so. That would drop the seat height substantially versus 26". As noted the 20" wheels would have the seat even lower.

Why don't you just use the gears and the shifters provided for changing THEM?

And now NYC has cracked down hard, confiscating (!) hundreds of Ebikes. Why? BECAUSE THEY ABUSED THE LAWS AND PEOPLE SAW THEM BEING USED NOT AS BIKES!!!!! But whatever works...... duh?