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As with all things electronic and software adjustable, I'm sure I'll fiddle with it. With the Orbea, at the highest power level, it can feel a bit grabby as the motor tries to go full power when you just start pedaling. On one hand, that does help move away from a stop, but I'm sure it also is...

Well you could always switch to Speedplays. But even in that case there is still an issue, because the pedals will tend to unscrew if the right hand thread is on the left side of the bike.

Thanks, all, this is incredibly useful information. The Orbea Gain has no way to detect torque or power - all it can do is tell whether you are pedaling or not. So any pedaling at all, even soft pedaling, invokes 100% of the motor power available (in the level you are set at). So if you are...

JonFox>>>You will be able to both stay in the paceline and pull at 25 mph with the Creo. They'll be asking you to pull! <<< Thank you all for your detailed and helpful replies. If I get a Creo I'll probably just set it up like my Gain. The Gain comes with three "out of box" levels of 30%...

I currently ride a 2019 Orbea Gain road e-bike, and am thinking of buying a Turbo Creo. I’ve put 9000 miles on the Gain, and I love it except for exactly one thing: the 20 MPH cutoff. There are some group rides where I keep up fine except on long (over one mile) flat sections. I can ride in a...

I have a 2019 Gain M20i, US version (20mph cut-off speed). I've ridden it just over 9000 miles on just over 500 rides. I would describe the loss of battery capacity as negligible. On identical rides on similar days with the same power levels, I used to go 12 miles before I went under 75%...

I've ridden 2500 miles this year, so I'm up to 7500 miles on my M20i. Still love the bike. I also bought a supplemental battery recently and have been able to do 50+ mile rides in the hills and mountains which is great. Still wish for an increase in the cutoff speed. I purchased a dongle...

Nobody has been able to do it because nobody has (fully) cracked the code. The X35 system has a 36V motor, a 36V battery, and a control unit. The control unit varies the voltage to the motor; higher voltage = more power. The green/orange/red levels control the max voltage to the motor. The...

Why would you think that? I wrote extensively about my experience with the SCC dongle here. I'm in the US so my normal cutoff is 20mph. In short, although the dongle communicates to the controller that my speed is 10.4 mph, the power diminishes significantly (down to 10-15%) between 20 and...

Speed Dongle Results - SCC Dongle Background I have a 2019 US-spec Orbea Gain M30i, with a maximum assisted speed of 20 mph. This is the original X35 system, not the newer X35+. I purchased an X35 tuning dongle from Sunshine Coast Carbon repair. Per their web site, “The dongle works on both...

I received the dongle from Australia this past Monday, it was easy to install, and I've done two rides since. Both rides were in cold and windy conditions so I consider these preliminary results. It was hard to tell at times if I reached the cutoff or if it was the wind. Note that I'm in the...

I think that the concept behind the eBikemotion hub motor system was (and is) pretty straightforward: they wanted to make a system that bike manufacturers could integrate into their existing bike platforms (frames and components) fairly easily, with minimal engineering and manufacturing...

I'll report my results when I install it. I am in the US, and I have a first generation Gain M20i (meaning, X35 not X35+). I fully appreciate that I get a 20 mph (32 kph) with the factory default before the cutoff. 15 mph (25 kph) would only be marginally useful to me, and I empathize with...

Thanks, cj3209 for the quick response. Ordered! Web site says 8-10 days to deliver.

Hi cj3209, Can you please provide a link or more specific brand/model information on the speed limit overrider you purchased? Since you referenced 20 MPH I assume you are in the US? $230 is not cheap, but it's a lot less expensive than buying a Creo.... Thanks much.

The hub motor would make as much power at 21 mph as it does at 20 mph. Power is not a function of speed - the cutoff (from the motor's perspective) is arbitrary. It might not feel like as much power to a rider, because at higher speeds the amount of energy to go an additional 1 mph is not...

>>>So...you're moving to Specialized Turbo Creo?<<< I admit I have researched it, given that the Creo is a Class 3 with a 28 mph cutoff. Specialized made an interesting number of engineering decisions for the Creo, and I probably just need to ride one. But if it's really noisy (like many...

CARL20, the angle of the top tube will not matter for the geometry, what matters is the effective length. If you look at the M series geometry, below, you'll see that the top tube length has the "EFF" in parens, indicating the length of the top tube as if it were perfectly horizontal. That's...

I purchased my Orbea Gain M20i in May of 2019, and in 20 months and about 300 rides I’ve put just over 5000 miles on it. Some thoughts and comments: Overall, I love this bike. I’m a 50+ year old guy who has been riding seriously for more than 30 years and without an assist bike, I don’t know...

I found additional information on updates to the X35 drivetrain system in this article from Urban Bike News. It appears that Mahle, the owner of the Ebikemotion platform, is moving away from that marketing nomenclature and calling it the Mahle X35+ system. The article goes on to say: So, as...