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Maybe. The website says deliveries will begin in April. He purchased his bike in June. If I was buying a product like that I would assume it was ready to go. It would not occur to me to call ahead and check I would just assume it was honest. People have been calling and it is now 150 days out...

I don’t know how it ends. I buy stuff all the time on the internet without bothering to look at the companies history. I just assume that if they say something is in stock it is or if it is going to be available in April that it will be. If they run into problems that they will give me my money...

Has anyone gotten on of these gen 2 bikes? Their website says shipping was to begin April 2023. I don’t understand how a company can get away with this year after year.

I guess you know better than I do. I was just basing it off the poster saying, “Nope, still a helios founder here, without a penny of a refund.” Maybe he is lying. Always seems like an honorable poster on the founders forum. Maybe he forgot about the first 4K. Or maybe just maybe Pushkar is...

So hold on, I post in a thread titled “ Waiting 15 months for a refund, messages being ignored… Any advice?’ Watts wagon has repeatedly missed deadlines and goes radio silent after they do. I do know that masejoer is a founder which means he paid his money in early 2020. I know they he posted...

Rome, you understand that the guy threatening legal action paid for his bike in 2020. Has waited over 9 months for a refund, and nobody from watts wagon will even return a text/email as to any update as to when he might get his money back. The bike he paid for is no longer being manufactured...

Looks like I was exactly a man of my word. I thought all founders were square. I left. Not a peep. Unlike the owner of this company, I do my very best to do what I say I will. Yet you would rather try to call me out than this crappy company that continues to act in a criminal way. Yes I feel...

As far as I know everyone on here asking for a refund has been fine with the schedule that watts wagon gives them. Usually 90 days. That time frame comes and goes. The communication stops and the customer now is wondering where they stand. Short of Rome, I have not seen anyone complain before...

I assume watts wagon knows what they are saying because the liability of telling someone it is safe is high. I assume that if there was any doubt about it being cosmetic only, that they would err on the side of caution.

I thought motorcycles put the hand brake on the right so the clutch and throttle would be on opposite hands. My bad if we were talking about motorcycles.

Almost all American bikes have the right brake as the rear. I would be shocked if ww or any company in America was switching that around.

There is an option for ebike ride. Just click edit and you will see where you can change the choice from running to Nordic skiing. Ebike ride is an option. I personally don’t think you should let them cry. Sure dudes take it too serious, but it is a fun app to measure up with how you are...

Yes I do. I numb up patients all Day long and have about 10 min or so to kill. Sometimes I engage the patients other times they like to be left alone and I come in read the news check a few message boards etc. Would you like to compare number of posts?

Alive …. Sure Well? They contested Sheldon’s cc chargeback. They took his bike back and now won’t give him back his money or communicate with him. They were supposed to have the founders paid back in feb. Then it was as soon as the refund came in. Then it was a refund of at least $1,500 to...

i fixed that for you. It is closing in on our 1 year break up. 7/16 to be exact. Not sure what you mean by the founders owing me nothing. I am not asking for anything. Actually that is not true. I am asking you, they have literally sent you certified letters, emails, sometimes texts, why...

I have posted on here multiple times that if anyone has any reason to think I am lying to please inform me so that I can delete it. I am in no way trying to slander anyone. If the truth is uncomfortable that doesn’t make it slander. I had an 15 month failed transaction with this company. I have...

2 i took the parts and ran when the frames that were in transit disappeared. By that time I felt lied to and the communication had already gotten very sparse. I was tired of hearing from wife and friends about “my dream bike” being one big scam. Since then the founders waiting on refunds have...

Please point out any statements that you think count as liable. I certainly don’t think that is anyone’s intention.

Call me internet warrior all you want. I call bullshit. The math doesn’t work and part of being a straight shooter is keeping the customer informed of the problems. Not setting a timeframe, letting it pass and only resurfacing after public pressure. At one point during the winter of 21 we...

Even with the no refunds, the ftc rules would supersede all of that. A timeframe was given and after a 30 day grace period a refund had to be offered and refund promptly granted. I would assume that with online daddy’s complaint to the ma. AG that is what path they will be perusing. These are...