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  1. J

    Gazelle Avignon/Ultimate - Other options

    Interesting perspective. I found that the e-bikes I test rode in single frame “one size fits all” or the larger of 2 frame sizes seemed a little cramped, like the handlebars were too close to my chest. I get that changing the handlebar backweep, riser bars, and adjustable stems give you a lot...
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    Gazelle Avignon/Ultimate - Other options

    Just curious, how tall are you? I have a Zen Photon on order but still have concerns the 19” frame size will be big enough even though the Zen folks are confident it can be tuned to work for me. The only step-through in XL frame size I could find anywhere is the Gazelle Ultimate series...
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    Evelo Omega vs Zen Photon Pro for next E Bike

    I was thinking about your “handlebars 5-6 inches above my saddle height” comment. Wish I had measured those distances on that Serfa that felt right, but didn’t think of it at the time. I did take a photo of it at the dealer after test riding, and looks like the distance difference is in that...
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    Evelo Omega vs Zen Photon Pro for next E Bike

    I’m 6-3 with a 35” inseam (and 35” sleeve length for shirts if relevant). Is the Photon making you more upright than you desire due to the sharp 38 degree back sweep on the bars maybe? The bike that seemed just right had the same reach as the Photon by used a 15 degree back sweep bar. I’m...
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    Evelo Omega vs Zen Photon Pro for next E Bike

    Good point—finding the sweet spot is trickier than expected. The last two bikes I had put so much pressure on my wrists that my hands went completely numb by the 30 minute mark. Too straight upright is not really comfortable, some middle ground with a little lean but that takes pressure off...
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    Evelo Omega vs Zen Photon Pro for next E Bike

    That’s interesting as my concern is that the Photon bar may be too low based on my comparison to the Serfa that seemed to fit just right. The Serfa that fit so well has a 3” plus longer head tube than the Photon, but maybe I’m not understanding that spec and it does not actually mean the...
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    Evelo Omega vs Zen Photon Pro for next E Bike

    The reach on the good fitting Serfa with the 15 degree back sweep handlebar is almost identical to the Photon reach, making me think the Photon 38 degree sweep is not going to work at all.
  8. J

    Comparing geometry to predict fit vs known comfortable fit bike?

    Thanks for the input, Ben. I guess the general category here, broadly speaking, would be hybrid? Yes, a more upright riding position seems to be the most comfortable to me, most e-bikes for road use seeming to fall in this general category. The Zen Photon has about the same reach as the...
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    Zen Photon Pro- Preorder | 1040Wh UL Certified battery | 500W nominal/900W peak power Torque-sensing motor w/ Throttle | USD 2999 | CAD 3999

    This is typical of recommended “good battery practices”: Depth Of Discharge According to many sources, lithium-ion doesn’t like being fully discharged. So try to avoid draining your batteries below about 25% when possible. If unavoidable, then charge it back up to above 25% as soon as possible...
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    Comparing geometry to predict fit vs known comfortable fit bike?

    I’ve test ridden several e-bikes, finding none that were comfortable until recently, most in the largest frame size available still too small for my 6-3” height and 35” inseam. So many bikes come in only “one size fits all” or 2 frame sizes, many having lower max recommended rider...
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    Evelo Omega vs Zen Photon Pro for next E Bike

    I finally found a bike that felt just right on a recent test ride, quickly comparing the geometry to the Zen Photon when I got home. The reach was less than a half inch difference, but the handlebars seemed to be higher relative to the seat height compared to all the other bikes I test rode...
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    Zen Photon Pro- Preorder | 1040Wh UL Certified battery | 500W nominal/900W peak power Torque-sensing motor w/ Throttle | USD 2999 | CAD 3999

    The only thing making me hesitate to order is the largest frame size seems a bit small for taller riders. I was thinking, like you, maybe the fit can be tweaked to fit better. Any owners out there 6-3 or taller with a 35” inseam find the geometry and fit working and comfortable for them?
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    Zen Photon Pro- Preorder | 1040Wh UL Certified battery | 500W nominal/900W peak power Torque-sensing motor w/ Throttle | USD 2999 | CAD 3999

    Has anyone selected the more swept back handlebar that is used on the Pure model? I noticed that it was mentioned as also available on the Pro model in this thread...
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    Velotric Discover 2 review

    I took a closer look at the geometry of 1 vs 2, but doesn’t seem they have the full set of measurements on the 2 like they have for the 1. From what I can see, it looks like the 1 frame is very similar to the 2 in large size—looks more like they added a smaller frame version to the 2 offerings...
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    Evelo Omega vs Zen Photon Pro for next E Bike

    Zen has advised me that the 19” frame size Photon will “fit” me, the seat and handlebar adjustment ability giving some tweaking options as you note. Since an XL 21” frame step through class 2 does not seem to exist, Photon looks like my best option in a 19” frame. The other alternative is to...
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    XL (21”) frame step-through (or low step over) class 2 “comfort” bike—does it exist?

    I’ve been searching for a step through class 2 (with throttle only capability) in an XL 21” frame size, but the largest I’ve found is 19”. The 19” one I tested seemed a little cramped, so was hoping to find a larger frame size. My top choice in a 19” frame is the Zen Photon, ticking all the...
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    Velotric Discover 2 review

    I’m 6-3. I’ll need to look closer at the difference between the 1 and 2 geometry—must have missed that. I’ve considered so many bikes, it’s a blur and might have glossed over that. Trying to figure out which bike/frame will fit me best just from looking at the dimension numbers is still...
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    Evelo Omega vs Zen Photon Pro for next E Bike

    I just looked at the geometry dimension specs for the Photon and all are identical for M and L except for the frame height—that doesn’t seem to really be two different frame “sizes”. What am I missing here other than larger maximum seat height on the large size? The other geometry is the...
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    Zen Photon review

    I noticed you are 6’ tall—I assume you got the larger frame vesrion? This is the top bike on my prospect list, but I’m 6-3 and was hoping for some comfort and fit feedback for 6-3 and taller riders.
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    Evelo Omega vs Zen Photon Pro for next E Bike

    Thanks, and I do intend to do that. I made an initial email inquiry and was told it would fit my height, but learning “fit” can mean a lot of different things. I’m leaning toward the Zen in the vs Omega option, but having my local bike dealer investigate further too. He has provided Everlo...
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