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I looked at both of those bikes because of the mid-drive motor and carbon drive belt. Went with the Zen Photon Pro. Some great write-ups in the Zen forum on this site about the motor, battery (UL certified) with 1040 watt hours.

@Ravi Kempaiah @Kriti Yad

@Grenseal Curious if you were able to do the throttle only test...

What is the benefit to a non-techy like me? I understand words like "more power" 160nm vs 120nm, faster charging?, longer life span?, more distance?

@Ravi Kempaiah really looking forward to an update on this new motor and delivery schedule...

I dunno why, but that made me LOL.

@Grenseal Can you do a throttle only distance test?

The folks who monitor this board are on the way to China. I understand Monday is a holiday. So probably Tuesday for more information. Have you spoken with Deepak?

@Ravi Kempaiah How does the increased amount of torque work with the Enviolo CVT? Isn't there some limit of power to be paired with the motor/hub combo? I really like the idea of more power being a heavy rider surrounded by some fairly big hills... Secondarily, how much longer would this delay...

Wow! 4 pounds lighter and 160nm of torque? Sign me up! The Electrek article is a good read, too.

@Kriti Yad When do you send out shipping information? Asking for a friend...

I ordered mine 1/14. It's in the bike photo above. Unsure about the shipping photo.

Then we have the same name. :cool:

Found this on Reddit: How do you lock your bike?

Hey! That's MY bike...the white one!

https://forums.electricbikereview.com/threads/zen-photon-pro-preorder-1040wh-ul-certified-battery-500w-nominal-900w-peak-power-torque-sensing-motor-w-throttle-usd-2999-cad-3999.54707/post-634153 I found this when looking for the same information. Not sure of the actual weight of the battery.

Photos! Photos our it didn't happen! And, congratulations!!! (Yes, way too many exclamation marks but I'm excited for you...)

Oh look! There's my bike 😛

I am pretty stoked about the recent news of the shipment leaving the port. https://www.linkedin.com/posts/caryduke_know-whats-in-this-freight-container-activity-7182046302984167424-b_Oz?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_android

What is this item you are discussing?