REALLY use Iconic EVO TR 1 750 on Mt. Bike Trails?

mrb55

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Is the Iconic EVO TR 1 750 a decent bike for use on true mountain bike trails (not just rough gravel trails)? Has anyone on this forum used this bike or a similar bike on Mt. bike trails? regularly? What should I expect, as a very novus rider, if I rode it on mountain bike trails?
Thanks much, Mark
 
Is the Iconic EVO TR 1 750 a decent bike for use on true mountain bike trails (not just rough gravel trails)? Has anyone on this forum used this bike or a similar bike on Mt. bike trails? regularly? What should I expect, as a very novus rider, if I rode it on mountain bike trails?
Thanks much, Mark
There's a whole spectrum of offroad surfaces out there. Better define exactly what you mean by "Mtn bike trails" to get useful answers about that bike. Narrow single track, rock gardens, lots of roots, loose dirt or rock, mud, deep ruts, very steep pitches, jumps?
 
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This looks more like a off-road touring bike than a downhill schredder
 
There's a whole spectrum of offroad surfaces out there. Better define exactly what you mean by "Mtn bike trails" to get useful answers about that bike. Narrow single track, rock gardens, lots of roots, loose dirt or rock, mud, deep ruts, very steep pitches, jumps?
You raise a great point. I'm not even sure what I really meant! I was thinking ALL of the above I guess. But realistically just narrow trails, some roots and rock gardens and occasional steep pitches. I suppose that may still be too broad of a selection. Just looking at the bike it seems like overkill for city commutes or even touring on light gravel trails, but at the same time maybe a problem on narrow trails or a single track because of its size and weight. Any ideas? And thanks for your help.
 
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This is typical all mountain mtb. A bit older model... Working for a different brand these days.

Just have a look at the both pictures, different geometrie, the bike you are looking at had a different use case in mind. In proper hands you can do a lot on a bicycle (i ve once ridden a big part of a local mtb trail on a Brompton...) since you are pointing out that you are starting to ride off road and are looking at this bike it is good to know both the bike and your abilities
 
The price of that Bulls puts it into a category similar to my Giant Stance E. That (to me) is a mid entry level off road machine.
I use mine for road/gravel/trails and some not too gnarly MTB action.
I see it as a great all around bike, kind of a SUV.
Hard core MTB/downhill/jumps etc. would require better suspension/brakes (and in my case rider) to be worthwhile.
Here's mine...

 
You raise a great point. I'm not even sure what I really meant! I was thinking ALL of the above I guess. But realistically just narrow trails, some roots and rock gardens and occasional steep pitches.
Sounds like you want your first e-MTB to get you to mid-level single-track riding. Could be a reasonable goal. Others can tell you if the Bulls you're looking at is really up to that task.

I'm no expert but have my doubts about that use case. The bike seems more SUV than full-on MTB to me, and the tire choice and promo video tell me that Bulls thinks so, too.

Question becomes, what else will the bike need to do for you? If nothing else, then a harder core e-MTB might be a better choice.

But will you also want to use it to commute, run errands, explore, go on long road rides? If so, lots of trade-offs ahead.
 
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I'd call that a trekking bike. It can do mild trails but you can get in trouble with it fast if you over cook it on the rough stuff. The next step off road would be an Enduro or Cross Country eMTB. They are not close to 60 pounds like this one, they are around half that. It will be tough to find for $3299.
 
"TR" in the name of this specific model stands for "Trail" as Bulls believes this full-suspension e-bike is single-track capable. The "AM" (All Mountain) models are closer to the Enduro class.

I think the model you showed, @mrb55, is trail capable. You only need to remove the fenders/mudguards, the rear rack and the kickstand, seriously. These items simply do not belong to e-MTBs on technical singletracks.

@DaveMatthews here owns a Giant Stance E+, which is a full blown, full power, full suspension XC e-bike. Only Dave chose to slightly "urbanize" his steed by adding the rear rack.

I cannot fully agree with @stompandgo. The Giant Trance E+ I once owned is a classy singletrack capable full power, full suspension Trail e-MTB and it weighs 26 kg or 57 lbs with pedals. Removing the three components I mentioned from the Bulls would make the bike a true Trail machine. I'm not sure if you know it, Stomp, that the most classy and latest Specialized Turbo Levo 4 Alloy just weighs 56 lbs... without pedals :)


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P.S. It seems neither Base nor Stomp have ever ridden Full Suspension, Full Power e-MTBs. I have. They must have been mislead by the "urban" equipment of the Bulls. The motor, battery, front and rear suspension and big wheels all add to the e-bike weight. There is no Trail e-MTB that is "half the weight" of the Bulls. Even a low power small battery Specialized Turbo Levo SL Alloy weighs over 20 kg or 44 lbs.
 
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I also delved deeper into the specs.

Suspension
120 mm front and rear, air spring: it is an XC (cross country) class e-MTB

Brakes
203 mm front, 180 mm rear. Adequate

Drivetrain
38T chainring, 11-46T cassette, 9-speed. Not expensive but it's an MTB gearing that also allows a decent speed on the flat

Wheels
27.5 x 2.40 in: a proper XC MTB size

Motor
Bosch CX 85 Nm Smart System, the Class 1 climber

Battery
750 Wh, following the current trends

Dropper Post
Included

Geometry
MTB
It is a proper XC e-MTB capable of riding technical singletracks, no jumps recommended though.

Mark, buy it and ride as if you stole it! Only remove the fenders, rear rack and the kickstand if you want to ride safely in a rough terrain. You might add lightweight temporary fenders such as SKS Germany or AssSavers later if you really need mudguards.
 
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