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kevinmccune

kevinmccune

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is there no sense on Capitol Hill? destroying the clean air mandates! some goomers thank its a good idea,I say not! I remember back in the sixties( this is a rural location mind you) how the mailbox by the st route would get covered with soot and how towns used to smell,are we going back to that( while your it bring back the lead too! I am surprised some asshole hasn't mentioned that.the easiest argument I can make for emission controls on vehicles is this,go to work in a tunnel and see how long you can last without electric drive and scrubbers on the ice vehicles.I wasn't on the co2 bandwagon till someone pointed that innocuous looking 10K peak was condensed into a span of 10 to the second here lately,viewed that way its terrifying and somebody please inform the Edrive haters of all the advantages of electric drive,as a whole I don't think most true Americans and citizens of the Earth want to die the "black death".
 
Slaphappygamer said:
Just goes to show how many people think global warming is a hoax and that science isn’t real. Only religion, money, and defending it all.

I wish I was wrong.
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YEs tyhis is Project 2025 in a notsauell deny it cut anythign that can actualy measure it no matter who it iwll hurt or kill. Some christians even hate christ for being woke now.
 
Didn't you vote for the person most to blame

Donald Trump pulled the United States out of the Paris Agreement on climate change

Trump announced the withdrawal in June 2017, claiming:
  • The agreement disadvantaged the U.S. economically.
  • It would hurt American workers, especially in fossil fuel industries like coal
In other words America first, pull the ladder up I'm alright jack !

"I'm all right, Jack" is a British expression used to describe people who act only in their own best interests, even if providing assistance to others would take minimal to no effort on their part.
 
I remember driving through Gary Indiana in the sixties and it seeing the air so thick with yellow pollution you couldn't see 1/2 a block. The water with so much garbage on it you couldn't see the water. Do we want to go back to that, not me.
 
Well at least there was good coverage of the Bonn climate conference...oh yeah, no one gave a fluck.
Belem next Cop 30, I can guarantee they'll announce more oil drilling and coal mines

The only difference between Trumps approach is he admits hes doing fluck all.

Ive got a hat and a popper for when it hits 500.
 
I work in a industry manufacturing mostly 2-stroke power tools. I work in Environmental Engineering, making sure our products comply with strict emissions standards. We heard about Trump now dropping the emission mandates but we, as a company, will not go backwards in manufacturing standards just because someone says we now can. That would be counter-productive to our customers and the environment we pledge to protect. Also, is Trump going to "DOGE" the California CARB board? They (CARB) seems to have their own super powers due to sheer size. I have a feeling lawsuits will soon follow, just like the lack of promised government funding he axed.
 
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teskow said:
I remember driving through Gary Indiana in the sixties and it seeing the air so thick with yellow pollution you couldn't see 1/2 a block. The water with so much garbage on it you couldn't see the water. Do we want to go back to that, not me.
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I grew up in a community adjacent and south of Gary Indiana. Looking to the north the sky would be red when the wind was coming off Lake Michigan. The steel mill I worked at as a young man would burn high sulfur coal at night to conceal the thick black smoke that billowed from the stacks and switch to gas or oil during the day. Back in the 60’s to early 70’s the pollution in the sky from the south east side of Chicago through Lake County Indiana could be seen for miles. I will never forget how the air tasted and looking at that ugly sky. The chemicals in the air would destroy the paint on automobiles. The industry workers would drive junkers to work which were coined “mill” cars,
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Ive put my KDX200 back on the road, its an old school 2 stroke, but with some jet wangling and 75:1 oil mix for gentle riding I can reduce the smoke to a very light haze.
Its completely legal to ride, of course there are hardly any left, Lambrettas, vintage Vespas etc.
Probably do a few hundred miles a year.

Im not flying anymore, its not the way I want to see the world, cattle tourism.

I get that magical feeling on my bike, I get the complete opposite flying and visiting tiresome tourist spots.

Im happy with my footprint.
 
Chargeride said:
Ive put my KDX200 back on the road, its an old school 2 stroke, but with some jet wangling and 75:1 oil mix for gentle riding I can reduce the smoke to a very light haze.
Its completely legal to ride, of course there are hardly any left, Lambrettas, vintage Vespas etc.
Probably do a few hundred miles a year.

Im not flying anymore, its not the way I want to see the world, cattle tourism.

I get that magical feeling on my bike, I get the complete opposite flying and visiting tiresome tourist spots.

Im happy with my footprint.
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I quit flying long ago. I might still do it in an emergency, but not willingly. In Europe and Asia, you still find good train services, but not over here. Cruise ships are mostly floating petri dishes, and noone wants to ride a greyhound bus. So driving (or staying home) is basically my only long distance option. 😥
 
Art Deco said:
I quit flying long ago. I might still do it in an emergency, but not willingly. In Europe and Asia, you still find good train services, but not over here. Cruise ships are mostly floating petri dishes, and noone wants to ride a greyhound bus. So driving (or staying home) is basically my only long distance option. 😥
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Flying became "not fun" once the airlines cramped up seating and started nickel and diming. We flew more in April to June this year than in the last 10 years. 4 trips, but we now only fly Business/First; not that bad up front.

We enjoy cruising, but switched to the higher end lines, smaller ships (1200 and fewer passengers). Did one larger ship (3500 passenger) this year, but upgraded to a level that had areas reserved/limited to those passengers.

Traveling away from the riff-raff is still enjoyable.
 
JimFMB said:
I grew up in a community adjacent and south of Gary Indiana. Looking to the north the sky would be red when the wind was coming off Lake Michigan. The steel mill I worked at as a young man would burn high sulfur coal at night to conceal the thick black smoke that billowed from the stacks and switch to gas or oil during the day. Back in the 60’s to early 70’s the pollution in the sky from the south east side of Chicago through Lake County Indiana could be seen for miles. I will never forget how the air tasted and looking at that ugly sky. The chemicals in the air would destroy the paint on automobiles. The industry workers would drive junkers to work which were coined “mill” cars,
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Akron and Canton Ohio were a smaller version of that in the 70s.
Steel mills and tire factories are rough on people who like breathing.
 
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