What happened to good manners

[CanNik]

I know this will create annoyance but.

I was brought up to say please and thank you, example, "Please can you tell me why", "My bike won't do this any advice welcome, thank you"

So many posts I see here, and it appears to be cultural because many, many here ask a question with no consideration as to saying either please or thank you in the question.

I thought it may be mainly due to one or other county but there are many UK posters here who's manners have been left in school, if they were ever taught there in the first place.

 

[Chargeride]

Im always amused when people say ' I was brought up to....etc'.

Theres quite a lot of unsaid implication in the statement
Its a passive aggressive announcement of a proper upbringing that instilled a superior class of behaviour.
'I was brought up to tip my hat when a lady walks by'.

Apart from the fact that I struggle to spot any such behaviour, I think most people here are comfortable enough not to write formally while discussing squeaky brakes.

Your most humble servant.
Chargeride esq

p.s. your last sentence earned you that sarcastic reply

 

[Gionnirocket]

I was brought up to ignore d_bags who's ax grinding stone never goes cold.

 

[teskow]

Please and thank you are just plain good manners in my opinion. In days gone by men always removed their hats when in public places, church and certainly while eating in a restaurant etc. We also opened the door for ladies. It looks like some didn't teach their children or just didn't know better.

 

[CanNik]

I was brought up to ignore d_bags who's ax grinding stone never goes cold.

An American !

 

[CanNik]

Im always amused when people say ' I was brought up to....etc'.

Theres quite a lot of unsaid implication in the statement
Its a passive aggressive announcement of a proper upbringing that instilled a superior class of behaviour.
'I was brought up to tip my hat when a lady walks by'.

Apart from the fact that I struggle to spot any such behaviour, I think most people here are comfortable enough not to write formally while discussing squeaky brakes.

Your most humble servant.
Chargeride esq

p.s. your last sentence earned you that sarcastic reply

I knew it would.

By the way I have corrected your punctuation, sentences and wording LOL.

I’m always amused when people say, “I was brought up to… etc.”

There’s quite a lot of unspoken implication in that statement.

It’s a passive-aggressive announcement of a “proper” upbringing that supposedly instilled a superior class of behaviour.

“I was brought up to tip my hat when a lady walks by.”

Apart from the fact that I struggle to spot any such behaviour these days, I think most people here are comfortable enough not to write formally while discussing squeaky brakes.

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Perhaps it is all down to education and I left school 50+ years ago without a single qualification what is your excuse?

Punctuation Fixes​

• Changed Im → I’m.
• Changed Theres → There’s.
• Added quotation marks around spoken examples:
  ' I was brought up to....etc'. → “I was brought up to… etc.”
• Replaced multiple periods .... → an ellipsis ….
• Added appropriate commas where needed (e.g., before “etc.” and in the sign-off).
• Changed 'I was brought up to tip my hat when a lady walks by'. → “I was brought up to tip my hat when a lady walks by.”

Your most humble servant,
Chargeride, Esq.

Wording / Clarity Adjustments​

• “unsaid implication” → “unspoken implication” (more natural phrasing).
• “I struggle to spot any such behaviour” → kept but added “these days” for smoother flow.
• Slightly rephrased:
  “I think most people here are comfortable enough not to write formally while discussing squeaky brakes.”
  (Improved rhythm and clarity.)
• Adjusted sign-off to:
  Chargeride, Esq. (Standard punctuation for “Esq.”)

 

[CanNik]

Please and thank you are just plain good manners in my opinion. In days gone by men always removed their hats when in public places, church and certainly while eating in a restaurant etc. We also opened the door for ladies. It looks like some didn't teach their children or just didn't know better.

 

[CanNik]

"superior class of behaviour."

No just good manners and good parenting!

 

[Nvreloader]

I can see this is leading to above my pay grade........
Tia

 

[Jeremy McCreary]

Please and thank you are just plain good manners in my opinion.

Absolutely — especially when asking strangers who owe you nothing for help. I tend to pass right over requests with no sign that the poster understands that.

HOWEVER, the above attempts to blame specific groups are just plain silly. No one here has the data needed to support claims like that.

 

[Gionnirocket]

An American !

I can only assume being a has_been makes one bitter

 

[twy]

Absolutely — especially when asking strangers who owe you nothing for help. I tend to pass right over requests with no sign that the poster understands that.

I guess I would argue that the whole purpose of a product/activity and/or hobby related forum is to get and give advice/help to people with similar interests.

 

[Jeremy McCreary]

I guess I would argue that the whole purpose of a product/activity and/or hobby related forum is to get and give advice/help to people with similar interests.

Well, not the sole purpose. Besides, I give out and get tons of help on this forum. It costs me nothing to be polite about asking for it and shows respect for other members' time and thought.

 

[Chargeride]

Perhaps it is all down to education and I left school 50+ years ago without a single qualification what is your excuse?

And there you go, classic over compensation due to insecurity.
You must be aware in a lifetime of trying to attach yourself to an elitism that the english language is entirely built on convention.
Im cheering on 'could of' to takeover from 'could have', the first port of call for those with little else to offer.

 

[Biplaneguy]

Its a passive aggressive announcement of a proper upbringing that instilled a superior class of behaviour.

Well, being polite is a sign of "a proper upbringing that instilled a superior class of behaviour."

It has nothing to do with social class. Indeed these days one is as (or more) likely to see to see polite behavior from an uneducated backwoods hillbilly than from a successful and "educated" city dweller. (Just look at US politics today, but I digress...) Too many people today mistake rudeness for strength.

Formal politeness is a lubricant that makes social interactions run more smoothly.

Biplaneguy,
who still holds the door for his wife.

 

[Chargeride]

Weve gone from a completely evidenceless accusation to writing off an entire nation and suggesting UK participants should know better.
Followed by bleedin obvious lecturing on the advantages of politeness

Are you actually Lord Fauntleroy.

I mean, you do know this a forum used by devices with spell, gramma and
thesarus checkers.
Which I have turned off because they limit the growth of language and expression on a wider scale.

 

[dodgeman]

I guess I don’t really expect a please or thank you when asking a question on an Internet forum. If someone answers my question I’ll often say thanks but not always. I think the “like” button or “thumbs up” button is used like a thank you.