Using Copilot AI to find my next eBike

sammcneill

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New Zealand
So I've spent 10mins getting MSFT's Copilot to try find my next eBike. I fed it this prompt:

You're an eBike specialist sales person with expertise across multiple premium brands and used to giving bespoke advice to customers. I'm an experienced eBike user having owned 3x eBikes and have quite particular requirements about what I like and don't like. I want you to be able to provide insights and suggestions on possible brands/models to meet my needs. ok?
and then told it what I like/don't like about my SC2:

I'm looking for a general purpose eBike that will have commuter requirements and also be my 'about town' vehicle of choice. I live in christchurch new zealand that is quite flat and a temperate climate. MY main bike for this is currently a Riese and Muller SuperCharger 2 eBike with a Gates belt drive, a Bosch high speed motor and a Enviolo Vario internal gear hub. The things I like about this bike: 1000wh battery, integrated lighting system (including brake light), good mud guards for water protection, front rack, pannier support on rear rack, front suspension - it's all a very good integrated package. The things I don't like about this bike: the Enviolo Hub is "under geared" to support a Bosch high speed motor. To achieve 40kph you need a cadence of 105rpm or higher, it's almost impossible to achieve a 45kph speed and it's not a comfortable cadence. The front rack is possibly too small, I'm finding I want to carry more and more on the front rack. It's heavy.
After some back and forwards I got it to reformat all the suggestions based on those that support a Gates belt drive (my preference) and those that have a traditional derailleur. I got it to add RRP pricing and then convert from USD$ to NZD$ on current exchange rates.

Here's the output if interested:

eBikes with Gates Carbon Belt Drive​

ModelBatteryMotorGearingIntegrated LightingRacksSuspensionHigh Speed SupportApprox. RRP (USD)Approx. RRP (NZD)
Riese & Müller Charger4 GT Vario750WhBosch Performance Line CXEnviolo 380 R&M CustomSupernova M99 Mini Pro-25Rear rack, optional front rackFront suspension forkNo$7,500$13,125
Gazelle Ultimate C380+ HMB500WhBosch Performance Line SpeedEnviolo 380 trekkingFront and rear lightsRear rack, optional front rackFront suspension forkYes$4,500$7,875
Priority Current500WhMid-drive motorEnviolo CVTFront and rear lightsRear rackRigid forkNo$3,300$5,775
Specialized Turbo Como 4.0 IGH710WhSpecialized 2.2 motorShimano Nexus 5-speedFront and rear lightsRear rack, optional front rackFront suspension forkNo$4,800$8,400
Cannondale Mavaro Neo 2625WhBosch Performance Line CXShimano Nexus 5-speedFront and rear lightsRear rackFront suspension forkNo$5,200$9,100
Riese & Müller Superdelite RohloffDual 1,250WhBosch Performance Line CXRohloff Speedhub E-14Supernova M99 Mini ProRear rack, optional front rackFull suspensionYes$10,000$17,500
Tout Terrain ChiyodaCustomizableBosch Performance Line CXRohloff SpeedhubHigh-quality integrated lightsRear rack, optional front rackFront suspension forkNo$8,500$14,875
Moustache Samedi 27 Xroad FS 7625WhBosch Performance Line CXRohloff SpeedhubIntegrated front and rear lightsRear rackFull suspensionNo$7,200$12,600
Kalkhoff Endeavour 5.B Advance625WhBosch Performance Line CXRohloff SpeedhubFront and rear lightsRear rackFront suspension forkNo$6,500$11,375
Velotraum FinderCustomizableBosch Performance Line CXRohloff SpeedhubIntegrated front and rear lightsRear rackFront suspension forkNo$7,800$13,650

eBikes with Traditional Derailleur​

ModelBatteryMotorGearingIntegrated LightingRacksSuspensionHigh Speed SupportApprox. RRP (USD)Approx. RRP (NZD)
Specialized Turbo Vado 5.0710WhSpecialized 2.2 motorShimano XT 11-speedFront and rear lightsRear rack, optional front rackFront suspension forkNo$5,000$8,750
Trek Allant+ 9.9S625WhBosch Performance SpeedShimano XT 12-speedHigh-quality integrated lightsRear rack, optional front rackFront suspension forkYes$6,000$10,500


This took me about 5mins to create a bespoke comparison table based on my preferences. Finally, I asked for links to each of the models to make life easier:


eBikes with Gates Carbon Belt Drive​

eBikes with Traditional Derailleur​

  • Specialized Turbo Vado 5.0
    4
  • Trek Allant+ 9.9S
    11
Hope this is helpful. If you've not mucked around with generative AI for this type of task I recommend giving it a go.

Cheers,
Sam
 
I should add, some of these bikes I've never heard of, so this was a useful compare and contrast exercise for me!
 
This is interesting. I had not considered using AI to assist with such a comparison ... now I can see myself doing a phone comparison, an action camera comparison and an active watch comparison just to get started :)
 
Same. I felt this way back when the internet got going. I kept reaching for books, and it took me a while to reprogram to hook into the new way of doing things. AI data projector comparison coming up for me 😊
 
Q: I need a lightweight gravel e-bike. I live in Warszawa Poland. What to look for and where to buy it?
A:
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I just realise Sam, that there was no homage5 suggested by your AI query. When the pinion version arrives over here, it is probably a green light for me to swop out my SD Mountain for one. Since moving home I have become more of a cycle path rather than single track warrior lol.
 
@Jay Kay I was in Dunedin on the weekend visiting my two girls studying down there, and on the 1yr anniversary of rupturing my quadriceps tendon I went for a big bike ride on my non-electric gravel bike. We were staying at a friend's house in Waitati so had to haul over Mt Cargill to start, then then around the harbour and back via Leith Valley:

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It was a great ride, epic "Dunners Stunner" weather and the ferry ride from Portobello to Port Chalmers made for a fun break in the middle. felt great to 'prove' my knee was just about back to normal on the 1yr anniversary of the injury, after two surgeries and countless hours of rehab!

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It was a great day on Saturday for a ride, and yours was epic! I lived at Waitati for many years so I know the turf and your route well. my SD with 1150wh dual batteries would only just complete that ride on a full charge. No motor is insane! We road from our place in town along the Peninsular trail to Portobello and back over the top ‘high’ road to town. The views were great but at just 45km, it was less than half your distance! I wonder if we passed by you? Great to see your knee held up too.
 
@sammcneill forgot to mention my last ride on the harbour bike ferry (about 6 weeks ago) my kiox controller went in the drink as the bike was being offloaded - a slow ride back to town from Port Chalmers for me!
Oh that makes for an expensive trip! damn! I made sure to take my Garmin Edge 1040 and Garmin Varia off my bike before handing it over to the captain of the boat for racking!

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I was riding out the peninsula to Portobello around 1-2pm, as I had to wait for 90mins for the 3:15pm ferry. Definitely saw a few eBikers whizz past :)
 
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