sammcneill
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- New Zealand
So I've spent 10mins getting MSFT's Copilot to try find my next eBike. I fed it this prompt:
Here's the output if interested:
This took me about 5mins to create a bespoke comparison table based on my preferences. Finally, I asked for links to each of the models to make life easier:
Cheers,
Sam
and then told it what I like/don't like about my SC2:You're an eBike specialist sales person with expertise across multiple premium brands and used to giving bespoke advice to customers. I'm an experienced eBike user having owned 3x eBikes and have quite particular requirements about what I like and don't like. I want you to be able to provide insights and suggestions on possible brands/models to meet my needs. ok?
After some back and forwards I got it to reformat all the suggestions based on those that support a Gates belt drive (my preference) and those that have a traditional derailleur. I got it to add RRP pricing and then convert from USD$ to NZD$ on current exchange rates.I'm looking for a general purpose eBike that will have commuter requirements and also be my 'about town' vehicle of choice. I live in christchurch new zealand that is quite flat and a temperate climate. MY main bike for this is currently a Riese and Muller SuperCharger 2 eBike with a Gates belt drive, a Bosch high speed motor and a Enviolo Vario internal gear hub. The things I like about this bike: 1000wh battery, integrated lighting system (including brake light), good mud guards for water protection, front rack, pannier support on rear rack, front suspension - it's all a very good integrated package. The things I don't like about this bike: the Enviolo Hub is "under geared" to support a Bosch high speed motor. To achieve 40kph you need a cadence of 105rpm or higher, it's almost impossible to achieve a 45kph speed and it's not a comfortable cadence. The front rack is possibly too small, I'm finding I want to carry more and more on the front rack. It's heavy.
Here's the output if interested:
eBikes with Gates Carbon Belt Drive
Model | Battery | Motor | Gearing | Integrated Lighting | Racks | Suspension | High Speed Support | Approx. RRP (USD) | Approx. RRP (NZD) |
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Riese & Müller Charger4 GT Vario | 750Wh | Bosch Performance Line CX | Enviolo 380 R&M Custom | Supernova M99 Mini Pro-25 | Rear rack, optional front rack | Front suspension fork | No | $7,500 | $13,125 |
Gazelle Ultimate C380+ HMB | 500Wh | Bosch Performance Line Speed | Enviolo 380 trekking | Front and rear lights | Rear rack, optional front rack | Front suspension fork | Yes | $4,500 | $7,875 |
Priority Current | 500Wh | Mid-drive motor | Enviolo CVT | Front and rear lights | Rear rack | Rigid fork | No | $3,300 | $5,775 |
Specialized Turbo Como 4.0 IGH | 710Wh | Specialized 2.2 motor | Shimano Nexus 5-speed | Front and rear lights | Rear rack, optional front rack | Front suspension fork | No | $4,800 | $8,400 |
Cannondale Mavaro Neo 2 | 625Wh | Bosch Performance Line CX | Shimano Nexus 5-speed | Front and rear lights | Rear rack | Front suspension fork | No | $5,200 | $9,100 |
Riese & Müller Superdelite Rohloff | Dual 1,250Wh | Bosch Performance Line CX | Rohloff Speedhub E-14 | Supernova M99 Mini Pro | Rear rack, optional front rack | Full suspension | Yes | $10,000 | $17,500 |
Tout Terrain Chiyoda | Customizable | Bosch Performance Line CX | Rohloff Speedhub | High-quality integrated lights | Rear rack, optional front rack | Front suspension fork | No | $8,500 | $14,875 |
Moustache Samedi 27 Xroad FS 7 | 625Wh | Bosch Performance Line CX | Rohloff Speedhub | Integrated front and rear lights | Rear rack | Full suspension | No | $7,200 | $12,600 |
Kalkhoff Endeavour 5.B Advance | 625Wh | Bosch Performance Line CX | Rohloff Speedhub | Front and rear lights | Rear rack | Front suspension fork | No | $6,500 | $11,375 |
Velotraum Finder | Customizable | Bosch Performance Line CX | Rohloff Speedhub | Integrated front and rear lights | Rear rack | Front suspension fork | No | $7,800 | $13,650 |
eBikes with Traditional Derailleur
Model | Battery | Motor | Gearing | Integrated Lighting | Racks | Suspension | High Speed Support | Approx. RRP (USD) | Approx. RRP (NZD) |
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Specialized Turbo Vado 5.0 | 710Wh | Specialized 2.2 motor | Shimano XT 11-speed | Front and rear lights | Rear rack, optional front rack | Front suspension fork | No | $5,000 | $8,750 |
Trek Allant+ 9.9S | 625Wh | Bosch Performance Speed | Shimano XT 12-speed | High-quality integrated lights | Rear rack, optional front rack | Front suspension fork | Yes | $6,000 | $10,500 |
This took me about 5mins to create a bespoke comparison table based on my preferences. Finally, I asked for links to each of the models to make life easier:
eBikes with Gates Carbon Belt Drive
- Riese & Müller Charger4 GT Vario
1 - Gazelle Ultimate C380+ HMB
2 - Priority Current
3 - Specialized Turbo Como 4.0 IGH
4 - Cannondale Mavaro Neo 2
5 - Riese & Müller Superdelite Rohloff
6 - Tout Terrain Chiyoda
7 - Moustache Samedi 27 Xroad FS 7
8 - Kalkhoff Endeavour 5.B Advance
10 - Velotraum Finder
9
eBikes with Traditional Derailleur
- Specialized Turbo Vado 5.0
4 - Trek Allant+ 9.9S
11
Cheers,
Sam