Super commuter+ 8s or new Allant+ 7?

[KrisMark]

Hello all!

New to the forums and indeed e-bikes as well.

I'm an avid cyclist with a lot of miles under my belt, have been loving my Trek cyclocross as my means of transportation but I'm about to move and will have a longer route to work without any possibilities to take a shower.

As a Trekker I had an offer from my local dealer for a 2019 Super commuter+ 8s for the same price as an Allant+7. Which one should I choose? I'm not very good determining what components are the better so any help would be much appreciated.

Indeed, if anyone have other e-bike suggestions I'm all open!

 

[Stefan Mikes]

If I'm not wrong, the Allant+ 7 is the Class 1 (25 km/h for Europe), and SC+ 8s is Class 3 (45 km/h) or L1e-b S-Pedelec. You can ride the Allant+ 7 as a regular bicycle on bike lanes in Sweden. The Super Commuter 8s+ needs to be registered and insured in Sweden as a moped and you are not allowed to use bike lanes but only roads.

P.S. Class 1 bikes are slower than Class 3 but have far better range on a single battery charge.

It is important what your daily routes are. If the distance from your home to work is relatively short and mostly by bike lanes, choose Allant+ 7. If you need fast rides using public roads and you are ready to register and insure the bike - go for Super Commuter+ 8S.

Both bikes are of high quality.

I live in Poland where we have similar e-bike laws as they are in Sweden and I own both a low-speed pedelec and an S-Pedelec.

 

[Dewey]

Good advice from Stefan. Trek Super Commuter & Allant are top of the line. Other Class 1 equivalent (European L1e-a) trekking/commuting bikes you might consider include: Walleräng Tapper, DBS Yamaha Trekking, Gazelle Ultimate, Bulls Urban Evo, Scott Axis, Moustache Friday. Happy test riding!

 

[Rick53]

It depends on the Country : In USA Alliant is going to be offered in Class 1 for Step Thru and Class 3 in what Trek in America calls Men's. I just spoke to TREK again last Friday 2/7/2020. I was told Dealers should be able to order in Late February . With Delivery in between March and early April 2020. Bosch Gen 4 :

Also the Alliant 7 has the same Upright Adjustable Stem found on the Verve +2. The Alliant 7 appears to be going after the rider who likes the Comfort of the Verve but in a Class 3 : I have a Thread with Pictures

https://electricbikereview.com/foru...d-colored-pictures-class-3.31726/#post-244830

The Allaint 8S appears to be offered in both the Class 1 and Class 3 Versions : The Allaint 7 and 8 are very closely priced

 

[Stefan Mikes]

As I can understand, @KrisMark is from Sweden. @PaD, any advice for your compatriot?

Giant offers completely different e-bikes for Europe than it does for North America. Some models are actually more interesting in Europe than those available in North America. KrisMark, pay your attention to that brand! Giant offers SyncDrive motors which are in fact Yamaha motors. Some 2020 European models are equipped with the latest Yamahas! Pay attention: If the bike has the "6-point RideControl EVO", it is the latest motor.

 

[KrisMark]

Thanks for all the helpful replies guys!

I think the super commuter is a class 1 bike so I might have my model numbers wrong.

Thanks Stefan! I will look into giant as well.

 

[KrisMark]

Just watched the Giant catalogue and the Fastroad E+ looks very interesting. Anyone have any information on that one?

 

[Stefan Mikes]

I think the super commuter is a class 1 bike

Can you confirm that?

 

[KrisMark]

Can you confirm that?

Not as of now, I know most ebikes in Sweden are by law cut down to 25km/h so perhaps its the case with the super commuter 8 as as well?

 

[Stefan Mikes]

Not as of now, I know most ebikes in Sweden are by law cut down to 25km/h so perhaps its the case with the super commuter 8 as as well?

Not necessarily. L1e-B bikes (S-Pedelecs) are allowed in Sweden as long as they are registered and insured as a moped. In case your route could be covered via public roads (and I know the high culture of Swedish drivers!), then you might shorten your ride by higher speed. You should consider if that's good for you. Believe me, riding 32-37 km/h is a lot of fun if you can resign from riding on the bike lanes.

One of my e-bikes, Turbo Vado 5.0 is the L1e-B and I was able to register it and insure in Poland. It was a novelty for the officials but doable. As far as I know, the SC is the L1e-B speed e-bike. Talk with your dealer!

In Poland, you need at least the EU Certificate of Conformity that comes with any L1e-B and the purchase invoice from the bike store to register an S-Pedelec. Additional documents are requested but that is because of the Polish bureaucracy.

 

[KrisMark]

Not necessarily. L1e-B bikes (S-Pedelecs) are allowed in Sweden as long as they are registered and insured as a moped. In case your route could be covered via public roads (and I know the high culture of Swedish drivers!), then you might shorten your ride by higher speed. You should consider if that's good for you. Believe me, riding 32-37 km/h is a lot of fun if you can resign from riding on the bike lanes.

One of my e-bikes, Turbo Vado 5.0 is the L1e-B and I was able to register it and insure in Poland. It was a novelty for the officials but doable. As far as I know, the SC is the L1e-B speed e-bike. Talk with your dealer!

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In Poland, you need at least the EU Certificate of Conformity that comes with any L1e-B and the purchase invoice from the bike store to register an S-Pedelec. Additional documents are requested but that is because of the Polish bureaucracy.

Awesome! Thanks Stefan! I will ask them, usually when I use my cyclo-cross I reach speeds far exceeding 25kph so I might feel a bit restrained by that.

 

[KrisMark]

Just asked my dealer and it was the super commuter 8 and not +8, so it "only" goes 25kph. Is it still a good bike and should it cost as much as the new allant?

Also I'm looking at the Vado 4.0 as well seeing as it is within the same price range. Do you enjoy your 5.0?

 

[Stefan Mikes]

SC costs the same as a new Allant because the SC is a discontinued model.

Kris, I enjoy my Vado 5.0 extremely. A word of advice. The European market is different from the American one. Up to my best knowledge, only Turbo Vado 5.0 and 6.0 are Speed Pedelecs in Europe. Everything comes with higher price. So if you want a Speed E-bike, I greatly recommend Vado 5.0, 2020 model.

It sells for 46000 kronor:

Homepage | Specialized.com

www.specialized.com

Vado is very nice looking, has improbable torque and totally silent motor. It also has top-level components such as Shimano SLX groupset and Shimano Deore XT 180 mm hydraulic brakes

Correction: I mentioned Trek Allant+ 8S. It is not a Speed e-bike in the EU. I have deleted that text from this post.

In any case, if you stretch your budget for "S" Specialized , you will forget the expense soon!

 

[Rick53]

Just asked my dealer and it was the super commuter 8 and not +8, so it "only" goes 25kph. Is it still a good bike and should it cost as much as the new allant?

Also I'm looking at the Vado 4.0 as well seeing as it is within the same price range. Do you enjoy your 5.0?

I wonder if C Virus will slow down Trek Imports :