Liv Amiti e+2 2019 (giant explore e) vs Electra vs...

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Looking for an ebike for commuting that will be good on hills. Need reliability, sufficient pep, capable of hauling two kids in a trailer, relatively upright position.

Looked at the liv model and it’s currently on sale, but can’t test ride anything as there is too much snow here.

Not sure if I should invest in this or wait and buy a Tern GSD.
 
Don't recognize liv.
Tern GSD has 20" tires. You haven't lived until you hit a pothole on 20" tires. Don't bite your tongue. If you think you can avoid them all, you never ride in the rain.
Happy shopping.
 
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Thanks. Liv is Giant’s women’s brand. The Amiti e+ seems to be the explore e+.

I guess the question is then, is the Amiti / explore e a good all/around comfortable commuter for hilly areas?
 
Court didn't review it. But I hit the liv-cycling.com website for a picture of the Amiti E+2. https://www.liv-cycling.com/us/amiti-eplus-2
It has a Yamaha mid drive which should both get you up hills and be capable of being pedalled unpowered. They claim range of 125 mi but the battery is 11.5 AH 36v. I get about 40 miles @ 9 mph out of 17 AH 48v but my route is hilly.
It comes in 4 sizes which is important to short or tall people.
It has no fenders. The picture is pretty big, I didn't see a boss or hole on the rear fork to mount fenders, a book rack, or trailer hitch apparatus. There was nothing but the seat stem to mount such a book rack or fenders either.
It has a 9 speed rear cluster, which means you'll need to replace the chain after 1000 to 2000 powered miles.
It has hydraulic disk brakes, which feel really good but sometimes need a new caliper when you replace the pads. When you push the piston back in for thicker pads, sometimes it will start leaking. I get about 4000 miles on the pad I use the most.
The tires are 700x45 mm which diameter is for long legged people. 45 around is a little small for speed, I use 55 (2") for 10 mph. There is a front suspension.
The frame is aluminum so it shouldn't weigh a lot. Hubs are QR which means on halloween or party days your front wheel would be stolen if the bike is chained up out in public. Saw 3 bikes w/o front wheel Sunday after Derby 3 years ago. I changed QR on bike left to #10-32x4.5" stainless screw with elastic stop nut, but that takes a little skill. If you weigh a lot more than 160 lb that screw might not be thick enough.
It has a straight handlebar. When I was 30-40-50 that was fine, but in my 60's I need the grips parallel to the bike frame. Posture will be slightly bent forward but not extremely aerodynamically smooth.
 
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Thanks! Did you look at the 2019 version? This is the one that’s on sale (the silver one). There are holes for fenders and rack.
 
You can look at the actual bike, I'm just looking at the picture on the website. If you can mount a rack for diaper bag kiddie supplies lunch, and to screw the trailer hitch to, then looks like a pretty good bike. I take tools air pump and 2 tubes everywhere in a bag, but I don't like asking friends with a big car for a ride home after a flat.Advantage of mid-drive, you dont' have to unhook the electrical cables to change a tire.
I ride in the rain a lot, since I don't have a running car, I need fenders.
Don't forget a stout cable (I use 12 mm diameter x 7') or chain (krypton & abus are reputable brands of hard to cut ones) and a grade 10 or 11 lock right away. That rides in the bag. Also front & rear lights. I bought my lights from modernbike.com, $36 for front $11 for back. 500 lumen front. I have 2 front lights, the 100 lumen flashes, the 500 lumen one lights the road. I have 2 back lights in case battery goes flat on one.
 
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