Lectric XP question, what do you prefer, PAS or throttle?

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How goes it! New guy here, and I'm newly wed to the XP 3.0 lol, had it around a week. Also, I'm an e-bike virgin, this my first one. I immediately made up for lost time though, and racked up quite a bit of mileage, man I'm addicted to hopping on this bad girl!

I'm still refining how to ride this thing, and yesterday I toyed with turning off pedal assist (setting 10), and instead used the throttle to assist pedaling as needed. Is that a thing that's commonly done? I must say, I much prefer it to the PAS modes, in that you could feather the assist...although "feather" is a loose term, the throttle seems to go from zero to top speed with little increment. I helped that somewhat by adding a "thumb lever" with a ziptie, seems to offer a little more throttle control.

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Ive had my XP2.0 for about 1500 mi. ive tried every combination I could think of. Ive settled on PAS 1 but use 100% throttle. My new question is I bought a long range battery and I thought it would give about 60-65 mi per charge. Ive started to check and and my first test on throttle alone PAS1 gave me 22mi. thats no where near the projected milage.
 
How goes it! New guy here, and I'm newly wed to the XP 3.0 lol, had it around a week. Also, I'm an e-bike virgin, this my first one. I immediately made up for lost time though, and racked up quite a bit of mileage, man I'm addicted to hopping on this bad girl!

I'm still refining how to ride this thing, and yesterday I toyed with turning off pedal assist (setting 10), and instead used the throttle to assist pedaling as needed. Is that a thing that's commonly done? I must say, I much prefer it to the PAS modes, in that you could feather the assist...although "feather" is a loose term, the throttle seems to go from zero to top speed with little increment. I helped that somewhat by adding a "thumb lever" with a ziptie, seems to offer a little more throttle control.

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Clever use of that ziptie to get finer throttle control!

Guessing that your ebike has simple on-off cadence-sensing assist — meaning that the motor's at full power when the pedals are turning and otherwise off, with nothing in between. In that case, assist level usually selects the maximum assisted ground speed when pedaling, not motor power level.

But a throttle, if present, typically overrides all of that — usually to a max speed of 20 mph. A progressive throttle then becomes the only way to get a motor power between off and 100%. Just as you're doing now.

An ebike with torque-sensing or power-sensing assist will dole out intermediate power levels according to rider effort. That calls for a very different riding style.
 
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,.. I toyed with turning off pedal assist (setting 10), and instead used the throttle to assist pedaling as needed. Is that a thing that's commonly done?

That's how I ride.
I've found that a cadence of 0 works best for me. 😂

I must say, I much prefer it to the PAS modes, in that you could feather the assist...although "feather" is a loose term, the throttle seems to go from zero to top speed with little increment.

I hear that !!
This is my throttle.

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I wrapped wire around the throttle grip to bind it enough to stay where I set it so I can ride no-hands.
The throttle is off now, and is only active when the wire pointer is between the two black lines.
The space before and after the lines are dead spots in the rotation.

The active area is ~14mm and the throttle circumference is ~150mm so the throttle goes from 0-max in about 34° of rotation.

I helped that somewhat by adding a "thumb lever" with a ziptie, seems to offer a little more throttle control.

I've got about a dozen ebike throttles, but they are all the same, with very little active movement.

So I bought yet another throttle to try,..


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It's for a Sur-Ron, so I'm thinking that it may have more rotation to go from 0-100.

My motorcycle throttles had A LOT More rotation in them, so I'm hoping a Sur-Ron throttle will be more like a motorcycle throttle.
 
I much prefer using cruise control and pedaling to assist the bike rather than it assisting me. Both PAS and a manual throttle create momentary, wasteful current spikes. Using cruise control at a constant speed eliminates this waste and, in my case, gives me 14% better battery range.

If your bike doesn't have cruise control, and you have some soldering & DIY skills, you can make your own using a variable resistor.

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Here's a link on how to do it:


The parts list is in post #19

An easier way is to use this twist throttle clamp:

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It's designed for motorcycles but works equally well on e-bike twist throttles.
 
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