LA Fires!

This surron rider is obviously being a complete rubber necker idiot, but it is a good ride around to context the situation.

 
gromike said:
How's everyone doing who lives in SoCal? I haven't seen Jeremy posting recently, and I believe the fire is in his neighborhood. Hope he's alright.
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Thanks for the concern, but the big fires in the news are all 50-100 mi north of us. By the time yesterday's Santa Ana winds got to coastal San Diego County, they were much weaker than the ones hitting Pacific Palisades, which is roughly 20 mi WNW of downtown LA. Weaker still today.

We're as dry as they are, but thankfully no fires here so far. However, our diminished Santa Anas are still carrying lots of desert allergens from the southern Great Basin. Eyes and throat have been stinging non-stop for 3 days.
 
I feel you. Fire smoke is no joke. In 2020, our little town was impacted by the CZU fires in Santa Cruz County. With lockdowns, remote learning, and unable to open the window, it was literal hell for almost 2 weeks. The fires were started by a lightning storm that took place at about 2am. I have an outdoor job and we were all issued masks. They mostly worked, but it wasn’t easy. Driving through the rural areas, you still see impact of the fires today.
 
A few small firetrucks could have saved this entire area, guy ignored evacuation and saved his house without a scratch with a garden hose.
 
I couldn't believe Lahaina burning down. Hard to believe this part of LA going up too.

They found a dead guy in the Easton fire, on the ground with garden hose still in his hand. Maybe he ran out of water. I know my hose would be useless.
 
harryS said:
I couldn't believe Lahaina burning down. Hard to believe this part of LA going up too.

They found a dead guy in the Easton fire, on the ground with garden hose still in his hand. Maybe he ran out of water. I know my hose would be useless.
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Yes, a lot of luck as well, but in reality only a brave home owner could save a house, there isnt the man power to go around all night putting out thousands of small fires.
Id only risk it if I had a swimming pool and a full scuba tank.
 
harryS said:
I couldn't believe Lahaina burning down. Hard to believe this part of LA going up too.

They found a dead guy in the Easton fire, on the ground with garden hose still in his hand. Maybe he ran out of water. I know my hose would be useless.
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Funny thing is, in dry and extremely windy conditions you don't fight a fire by putting water on it. You're better off putting that water on stuff that hasn't burned yet to try and slow the damned thing down.

Fighting a fire in extreme conditions is like fighting a tornado. Sometimes literally.
 
Chargeride said:
A few small firetrucks could have saved this entire area, guy ignored evacuation and saved his house without a scratch with a garden hose.
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No, a few small fire trucks could not have saved the entire area. Your politically motivated lies are offensive and diminish the weight of everyone’s suffering.
 
mschwett said:
No, a few small fire trucks could not have saved the entire area. Your politically motivated lies are offensive and diminish the weight of everyone’s suffering.
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Oh c'mon, we know everybody online has spent years fighting wildfires and is an expert on the topic.

Having said that, most of the politically motivated criticism is based on ignorance that would be hilarious if it weren't so tragic and pathetic. And politically motivated criticism of wildfire operations has historically seemed to be a standard issue item, alongside Pulaskis and McClouds. And if you don't know what a Pulaski is or had to look it up you don't know beans about how wildfires are actually fought.
 
Well I did post that it was rather unrealistic to suggest that they would spend days putting out thousands of tiny fires, that would require constant vigilance, though many homeowners did do that while ignoring evacuation.
But thats how a lot of them burnt, tiny floating embers landing on wooden houses.
As you say its risky as hell, one guy nearly died just trying to put out a small bush, the wind turned it from a small fire to a 20ft furnace that engulfed him.
Watching the Lifeboat station burn from a fire the size of a dinner plate was unbelievable.
I was quoting a guy who was actually there all night in the middle of it.
 
Mr. Coffee said:
Fighting a fire in extreme conditions is like fighting a tornado. Sometimes literally.
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It is almost silly looking for a cause. It is not what sparked a fire, it is the conditions when anything can spark a fire, due to fossil fuel over use/global warming's chaos consequences returning home; static electricity from a trash bag in the wind. Anything. Two years of major rains then one with none multiplied by hairdryer hot dry gale force winds. The torch guy was doing his full-time job as a road worker melting tar. He probably did not have very high SATs and could not read a room very well when neighbors jumped on him. These are fire storms. There are ember tornados and they create their own winds as they draw cooler air from the bottom sides and shoot sparks and debris miles high up the middle. They can even create their own dry lightning storms. Anything in these conditions that is even slightly flammable explodes. Another concern is if and when they happen in less affluent South Los Angeles. Marshal Law would be declared. It is scary as hell. Desperate brown people will be shot by the National Guard during the 47 inauguration. Which images would Fox 'News' cover first, pre-emptively.

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If youre referring to the guy with the handeld gas torch on the bike, it seems hes been charged with probation felony.
No charges for arson.

Theyre claiming it as worst disaster in US history, of course 'worst' is relative, the most expensive was the 1926 Miami hurricane , 235bn adjusted cost.

The most fatalities was the 1900 Galveston hurricane up to 12,000 dead.
Someone has messed with the wiki, stating CAT 68.

Englands worst disaster was the 1703 storm.
en.m.wikipedia.org

Great storm of 1703 - Wikipedia

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Im reading about the inevitable mudslides when it rains, no bush to hold the soil, I guess that depends how much it rains.
 
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