Thanks for your efforts. I’ll just let them on. Being led they shouldn’t draw the battery down much.Hey guys! I did some research and reread some of my past Specialized electric bike reviews. The "always on" lights frustrated me a lot too... NO, you cannot turn off the lights for the SL models. I think this has to do with European regulations that require a certain brightness and quality of light for Class 3 speed pedelec models (that go over 28mph or 45km/h) for safety. Even though here in Canada (where I'm based at the moment) the Vado SL models are only Class 1 due to local regulation, the light thing still persists. It seems that you have two options:
Some standard Vado models had a light button on the control ring near the left grip that would allow users to switch them off. Sometimes this was at the base of the ring... but the SL models seem to only have a walk mode button there. I wish there was an easier way to unplug the lights, like an inline press fit or even an inline switch. Maybe you could open the connection and add a physical toggle switch yourself? But, it might not be as water and dirt resistant as the stock design. Sorry to deliver this bad news. Here's another thread talking about it on Reddit that has some of the same tips and similar frustrated "no solution" result. Maybe others have ideas or tips to share here? Maybe Specialized will see this and rethink their design?
- Use black duct tape to cover the headlight temporarily and deal with the gluey gunk stuff and possible damage and melting due to the heating of the light (I'm not endorsing this, just seen some people mention it elsewhere)
- Flip the bike over, remove the motor cover, unplug the headlight.
I'm from Colorado USA, but I moved to San Francisco California, Austin Texas, Bermuda, Mexico, New York City, and then ended up in Vancouver Canada (where I'm at now). I've never been to Belfast! That's in Northern Ireland UK? My Aunt is adopted, and she's part Irish maybe I can come visit someday, I love the history and have a certain curiosity and fascination with Ireland.AHH bummer...thanks for your detailed reply...I'm from Belfast...where r u?
How did you measure that? In my experience the Vado SL lighting takes no effect on the battery charge, and trust me -- I ride a lot. I never turn the Vado SL off on my stops. In case I restart the ride before the system time-out, I see no change in the battery % between the stop and the ride restart.because in my estimation, they use 3-4% of the battery capacity HOURLY
Funny to think about it but I got the warning about the low TCU coin battery level: it is a red LED on the TCU in a specific pattern.Final point 1 - I had no warning about the TCU battery needing replacement, the system just stopped.
I think my intermittent problem was probably caused by stone getting stuck in the mudguards, but that’s only an idea.How did you measure that? In my experience the Vado SL lighting takes no effect on the battery charge, and trust me -- I ride a lot. I never turn the Vado SL off on my stops. In case I restart the ride before the system time-out, I see no change in the battery % between the stop and the ride restart.
In my opinion, the anxiety about the battery consumption by Vado SL lighting is greatly exaggerated. Regarding the safety... As a driver, I hate cyclists with blinking lights.
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A Vado SL as seen from the distance of at least 1,000 ft on a bright day (10x zoom lens). The driver should be blind not to spot that e-bike
If you want Steve, I can measure the actual battery consumption by Vado SL lighting.
Funny to think about it but I got the warning about the low TCU coin battery level: it is a red LED on the TCU in a specific pattern.
Steve, let us do an experiment (I cannot promise doing it very soon). I own a 2020 Vado SL 4.0 EQ, and can measure the actual current battery capacity using the BLEvo app. The experiment would be forcing the VSL running for an hour stationary with the lights on, and I will report the battery consumption. I do not assume you are wrong! Let the facts benefit both of us!Goodness me - I did expect you to reply, but not quite so quickly!
My thinking is that, until the recent tcu update, I would ride the bike for, say, 2 hours with the system on but without using power, then stop for coffee (I’m a bit of an addict) then I’d restart the system, and lo, I’d “lost” 4% of the battery. Since the recent change I can see it drooping percent by percent, and it’s been around 15-18 minutes per 1%. It may be the algorithm that’s changed, but it seemed pretty conclusive to me.
Well Steve, the driver could pay no attention at all, flashing light or no light... Whenever I see a parked car from a distance, I assess the situation and either slow down (to let a car behind me overtake me) or I just pass the parked car with a healthy distance of 1.5 m. I could see too many films with cyclists smashing the open car door!PS Stefan - my wife was knocked off her bike by a driver opening his door in front of her. At the time she only had the bike light on, whereas now we always use flashing lights. No guarantees though - the driver who opened his door was paying no attention at all!
A general remark (not relevant to your case!): While I am fond of the rear mudguard in my VSL, I absolutely hated the front one! I removed the front mudguard and replaced it with an AssSaver soon.I think my intermittent problem was probably caused by stone getting stuck in the mudguards, but that’s only an idea.
I have run my Vado SL in four 15-minute sessions from 8:55 to 10:03 my time. I was recording the battery state with BLEvo.(2) because in my estimation, they use 3-4% of the battery capacity HOURLY, which over a typical 6-8 hour ride, uses up 18-30% of the total battery capacity (non-negligible in my view).