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Bicyclista
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I posted a similar question a few days ago. (See thread titled Haibike AllMtn Plus vs FullSeven RX.) As it turns out, Court compared the Bosch and Yamaha motors in this video: https://electricbikereview.com/forums/threads/courts-bosch-vs-yamaha-mid-drive-comparisons.3859/
Court did not like the Yamaha motor's tendency to cut assistance at high pedal cadence. This may not be a factor for you if, like me, your pedal cadence is slower.
My conclusion after test-riding a couple of Haibikes at the dealer, reading, and looking at videos: the Bosch is more refined, the Yamaha cheaper, both have comparable power, and both are probably equally reliable.
I ended going with the AllMtn Plus with the Yamaha motor, but the motor was not the deciding factor. The fatty 3-inch tires were!
Between the HardSeven and FullSeven I would choose the FullSeven. In an ebike full suspension is a substantial benefit due to the higher speeds—you feel the bumps more sharply at a higher speed. Full suspension increases stability and control over rough terrain. While the motor does not cancel the inherent inefficiency of a rear suspension—the rear wheel bobbing up and down causes the chain to alternate between tension and no tension—it minimizes it.
Others may have a different, equally valid, opinion.
Court did not like the Yamaha motor's tendency to cut assistance at high pedal cadence. This may not be a factor for you if, like me, your pedal cadence is slower.
My conclusion after test-riding a couple of Haibikes at the dealer, reading, and looking at videos: the Bosch is more refined, the Yamaha cheaper, both have comparable power, and both are probably equally reliable.
I ended going with the AllMtn Plus with the Yamaha motor, but the motor was not the deciding factor. The fatty 3-inch tires were!
Between the HardSeven and FullSeven I would choose the FullSeven. In an ebike full suspension is a substantial benefit due to the higher speeds—you feel the bumps more sharply at a higher speed. Full suspension increases stability and control over rough terrain. While the motor does not cancel the inherent inefficiency of a rear suspension—the rear wheel bobbing up and down causes the chain to alternate between tension and no tension—it minimizes it.
Others may have a different, equally valid, opinion.
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Marceltt
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Hi there , I think the cost of the haibike Hardseven SL is better and I also read that the Yamaha motor gives the battery a little longer distance.
Bicyclista
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I'm sure the HardSeven SL will be a lot of fun! Interesting info on the Yamaha motor... My AllMtn Plus (with Yamaha motor) should be here any day!
Marceltt
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You must be excited. What model is the one your getting
pxpaulx
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All mountain plus is the model name. One of their nicer bikes too!
Bicyclista
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I believe the complete name is Haibike Sduro FullSeven AllMtn Plus. Sduro means it has the Yamaha motor, whereas Xduro would mean the Bosch motor. FullSeven means it has a full suspension with 27.5-inch wheels, whereas HardSeven would mean a hardtail with 27.5 wheels (and HardNine a hardtail with 29-inch wheels, etc.). AllMtn means it's an all-around mountain bike (as opposed to, say, a special-purpose downhill bike). "Plus" indicates that the frame, fork, and wheels accommodate the fatty 3-inch tires it comes with. Fatter than most mountain bikes but not as fat as the 4 to 5-inch tires on (usually) 26-inch wheels of fat bikes.
If I got anything wrong in the above description, somebody please correct me.
If I got anything wrong in the above description, somebody please correct me.
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