Bultaco Brinco Hub

[Manu]

It has several versions from pedelec to R-pedelec with hub emtb and moto.

https://www.bultaco.com/en/motos

https://www.bultaco.com/downloads/FichaComparativaBrincoEN.pdf

The ground army spanish has a few R-pedelec Brinco-R with camouflage colors for tactical operations in the field with launch by parachute.
Battery 1300w
weight 40 kg
Motor 2000w and 250 w .

Prices in Europe

• Bultaco Brinco R: 5.180 euros
• Bultaco Brinco R-E 5.800 euros
• Bultaco Brinco C y S: (homologadas): 5.800 euros Law EN15194
• Bultaco Brinco R Discovery Lim. Ed.: 5.330 euros
• Bultaco Brinco R-B: 3.990 euros this version is the R but changed by less quality components and protectors, that's why it's cheaper.

Front and rear suspension on all models and With accelerator.

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[Nova Haibike]

Those guys must have been awfully tired after all that pedaling.

EDIT: I was referring to the first video; at least in the second one they actually rode them as bicycles sometimes.

 

[Manu]

I do not know the version of the video of test I do not know if it is of engine 2000w or homologated version of 250w.


Watch the next test with KTM bosch and follow the rhythm

 

[Dionigi]

WOW, a name from my past. In 1965 I owned a Bultaco.

 

[JRA]

The should have called it the Métisse.

 

[JRA]

I do not know the version of the video of test I do not know if it is of engine 2000w or homologated version of 250w.

ho·mol·o·gate
hōˈmäləɡāt,həˈmäləˌɡāt/Submit
verb
past tense: homologated; past participle: homologated
1.
approve (a car, boat, or engine) for sale in a particular market or use in a particular class of racing.

It is a 2000w motor that can be electronically detuned via the controller onboard to only produce 250w to meet the EU requirements but the throttle kind of bodges it.

 

[Manu]

ERROR "It is a 2000w motor that can be electronically detuned via the controller onboard to only produce 250w to meet the EU requirements but the throttle kind of bodges it."


An electric motor to work can not lower 50% of its electrical design in nominal consumption watts.2000w 50%=1000w.


https://www.bultaco.com/downloads/FichaComparativaBrincoEN.pdf

Brinco 6.0=hub 2000w=37 mph
Brinco 4.5= hub 2000w=28 mph
Brinco 2.5 =hub 250w=15mph Law EN15194 (15mph/max 500w motor)year 2017

change the equipment, more urban or more mountain C,RS,S;R

Example brinco C 4.5=2000w
Example Brinco c 2,5 =250w hub law en15194
Law EN15194 (15mph/max 500w motor)year 2017

European law does not allow you to homologate with engines/motor over 500w currently in design.

 

[JRA]

"An electric motor to work can not lower 50% of its electrical design in nominal consumption watts.2000w 50%=1000w."

That's odd. I can set my 1200w peak hub motor to only put out 50w and anything between if I want via my Cycle Analyst III and controller.

 

[Manu]

I use the walk mode and that's a lot less watts for the engine, but the walk mode with me uploaded to my haibike does not get me moving from the place and what will it be¿ 25 or 50w ?.
When a motor starts at second 1 the motor does not consume its design watts, it consumes the design of the multiplicative order of 2x or 3x of its nominal value and if I lower the consumption of a 2000 wa 250w there is not enough electrical excitation to generate the starting , because the winding is still 2000w and supplying 250 does not produce enough start excitation.
That's why none of these high-power motors are lowered by 50% because you also have an efficiency below 80% of the wattage you deliver. It's less efficient.
Law EN15194 year 2017 Europe That law tells you that the electric kits are forbidden in all their versions

for bicycle

and that the motors have to be of nominal design 500w maximum, you can not put any motor above those watts in design, without access to the controller, the 2000 w hub does not comply with this homologation, so he puts the 2.5 to fulfill the homologation and tells you in a section that you still need a support kit to be able to fulfill it.


It is a very strict law because it demands a few maximum characteristics, without access to the controller to be able to safely limit the top speed 25km / h