Bosch 400wh battery - $350 (Phoenix, AZ)

Christopher85083

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OEM Bosch battery from a Haibike xDuro.

2 years old, 75 cycles on it.

Great shape, and will ship quickly from Phoenix, AZ.

Thanks!
Chris
 
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Good luck with the shipping! I tried and found out that it is next to impossible for a private party to do because it is considered hazardous goods.
 
If you end up trying to ship you just need to find a 3rd party freight forwarder/etc who can ship haz mat. I've called around to UPS and FedEx and they won't do it for you. These companies might do it!
 
I selected “yes”, when the system asked me if the package contained lithium ion batteries, but that’s all I remember. The shipping label looked the same as any other, but maybe they put a hazmat sticker on it after I left?

I have a mailroom at my work and I shipped from there, so I never actually spoke to UPS about it.
 
You're lucky! I tried that and UPS turned the shipment around after one day and returned it to me.
Did you find out how they knew? I was just looking at the UPS document about batteries again and you can ship a 300wh battery without haz mat regulation so maybe that's the best way to go? Still dishonest but pretty close?...
 
Just curious...When shipped UPS Ground was the Lithium Ion battery declared Haz Mat and if so what requirements did UPS
impose? Thanks

I attached the UPS brochure on this. The flowcharts near the bottom are the easiest to understand.
 

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I attached the UPS brochure on this. The flowcharts near the bottom are the easiest to understand.

Mikk, Thanks for linking the UPS Haz Mat flow chart. To be clear, I'm not with the Haz Mat 'Police', :)
but here goes. Mikk you wrote..." you can ship a 300wh battery without haz mat regulation so maybe
that's the best way to go? Still dishonest but pretty close?... " I'll start with the easy part 'pretty close'.

The Bosch 400 watt battery is not pretty close, it's 25% above the legal haz mat limit. As for being the
"best way to go" aka shipping a haz mat battery without declaring it as such is illegal and possibly dangerous.

Should the cardboard box the battery is shipped in, while being handled, be crushed, ripped,
'speared' by a mechanical piece of equipment etc, any of these actions increases the odds the battery
could become shorted or other physical damage to the cells. The possible outcome could be a fire etc
and nowhere is there any indication that the carton contains a 400wh lithium battery.

Now the 'fun' starts assuming no one was injured....UPS traces the battery back to the shipper ( UPS is good
at tracking stuff :) ) and I quote...

"The maximum civil penalty has been increased from $55,000 to $75,000 for knowingly
violating federal hazardous material transportation law."

Should this fictitious damaged battery situation cause injury or death.....

" The maximum civil penalty for knowingly violating laws and regulations that result in death, serious illness,
severe injury to any person, or substantial destruction of property is increased from $110,000 to $175,000."

As for shipping a 300wh battery without haz mat regs...The Bosch batteries are labeled Powerpack 400.
admittedly a bit vague, but the actual Bosch label on the opposite side clearly lists the battery as 400wh.
 
I was just looking at the UPS document about batteries again and you can ship a 300wh battery without haz mat regulation

Both Fedex and UPS can ship batteries well above 500Whr.
UPS charts show that you just need to obtain appropriate packing and labels (which many certified centers would do).

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Mikk, Thanks for linking the UPS Haz Mat flow chart...

Oof, hefty fines! And I certainly didn't mean to endorse lying to UPS, but I'd hope that you would get a smaller fine if you told them it's a battery versus not saying anything. Right???

I really want UPS and FedEx to get their locations certified to ship these bigger batteries. I can't imagine it will take that long as ebikes and other small electric mobility devices are getting much more popular and inevitably people will want to ship them more frequently.
 
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