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  1. SHarvester

    Quality first but dollars count!

    Right now my wife still needs the car for work on short notice, but when she retires we will become a one car, one e-bike couple. I fear for our grandchildren’s planet and will be glad to lighten our carbon footprint. This e-bike costs less than the ten days in Spain I canceled.
  2. SHarvester

    Quality first but dollars count!

    I’d love to see lower prices on Gazelles. Where can I find them?
  3. SHarvester

    Quality first but dollars count!

    My choices are simple because I have one trusted dealer in my hometown who has kept my 15 speed road bike humming for 14 years. So it’s Aventon or Gazelle. I’m fit for 70, western MA is hilly not mountainous. All the bikes I tried out were quiet, comfortable, and handled our hills easily. So...
  4. SHarvester

    Quality first but dollars count!

    Well yes a future shopper in a similar situation could find great help here. Wish me luck; as a sales guy I’ll put on my best grin and say, “I’ll shop around until April—or I’ll buy yours now if you put that $150 carrier bag on the back.”
  5. SHarvester

    Quality first but dollars count!

    I think we can close this thread now. Thanks for coaching me along to my best decision. I never was a handy guy, and will grow even less so over the 5-10 years I can hope to ride my e-bike. Spending more to ride the low maintenance Ultimate C8 isn’t like spending more to get a sun roof, or...
  6. SHarvester

    Quality first but dollars count!

    Yes, my local shop offers all three Gazelle models. I can afford any of them and they all ride beautifully. Western MA is hilly but not mountainous. I’m pretty fit for my age so expect all three will get me up any hill around here painlessly. So it all comes back to the original point of my...
  7. SHarvester

    Quality first but dollars count!

    I’m in western MA with many hills, no mountains. I’m not going off road. I’m expecting either bike to help me up any hill near me. I can afford either bike but since both ride beautifully I don’t want to overpay for extra’s I don’t need (my car doesn’t have heated car seats but it does have...
  8. SHarvester

    Quality first but dollars count!

    Okay guys I rode ‘em and I’m down to two: the Gazelle Medeo T9 HMB, or for about $1k more the Gazelle Ultimate C8 HMB. There are many small differences but the big one for me is the low maintenance the Ultimate offers with the carbon belt, hub motor, interior workings no lube required. My...
  9. SHarvester

    Quality first but dollars count!

    This thread has been immensely helpful; thanks to all. When weather permits I will ride three Gazelles into the hills and come back with my buddy for the next 5-20 years!
  10. SHarvester

    Quality first but dollars count!

    “It is the real users with big mileage who tell you the truth.” I don’t go off road or up mountains, so I’m honing in on a Gazelle with Bosch mid-drive. I’ll give one a spin when weather allows. Thanks, all!
  11. SHarvester

    Quality first but dollars count!

    Very helpful, thanks! I came to this site after 1. Researching positive reviews and having a positive experience riding a new Aventon Level 2 Commuter, and then learning a) they switch to less expensive parts than those advertised and b) they take forever to respond to service issues. So...
  12. SHarvester

    Quality first but dollars count!

    Thanks for the reality check. So replace the 20 mph with “get up Western MA hills without struggling”. Now do my goals make sense?
  13. SHarvester

    Quality first but dollars count!

    Completely crazy? Please explain. “Just buy the one I will be happy with”. If I had a crystal ball your advice would be more helpful. I will be happy with the one that takes me up and downhill at 20 mph the longest. But if there is one ebike that does that for ten years and costs $10,000...
  14. SHarvester

    Quality first but dollars count!

    Newton is a world away from me. I like and trust my local dealer. So I’m looking at the brands they offer, and Stefan in Poland says Gazelle, Norco, and Orbea are the only premium brands I can buy locally and get serviced. See my post to Stefan on how I’m thinking this through? Thanks!
  15. SHarvester

    Quality first but dollars count!

    Yes I started off liking Aventon reviews, then learned they are based in China, will switch from advertised components to cheaper ones, take months to deliver service. What I’d like doesn’t exist: a review of a 2022-3 model from someone who has ridden 10-50 miles daily for five+ years. So...
  16. SHarvester

    Quality first but dollars count!

    I’m looking for most miles per dollar, not fewest dollars. You get what you pay for! I want a quality e-bike from a reputable company that provides fast hassle-free service through my local dealer. So right away we are looking at a shortened (alphabetical) list: Aventon; Breezer; Electra...
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