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    Bafang G062 / G063 Info

    Thermistor - yes exactly. Some controllers that have phase speed sensing will still give you a speed readout even without the speed wire, you just wont get the speed readout when OFF the throttle (because its freewheeling). What fails first - It depends. If you run 90+ phase amps (say you run...
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    Bafang G062 / G063 Info

    60-75 phase amps I would consider the limit for "safe". You can run more, just when going beyond that number the chance you have motor issues starts to increase. The gears, the parallel key, and the heat itself from the motor, a "warm" motor can overheat and melt the windings in as little as 30...
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    Bafang G062 / G063 Info

    I would not try this project. You will need to machine the stator to fit more wire. I would not recommend a higher gauge wire, I would recommend .5mm wire and just more of them, like 25 strands instead of 15 strands. Machining the stator can damage the laminations in several ways, they can...
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    MXUS GDR19-FAT - Most powerful geared motor?

    The good: - Large high torque stator - The motor seems to take heat well, seemingly outperforming the G062- I was able to run 90 phase amps at low RPM (thick sand) non stop for 2+ miles (several minutes) on a warmed up motor - Steel/Nylon gears from the factory - Much stronger cluch/drive key...
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    MXUS GDR19-FAT - Most powerful geared motor?

    Its a nice piece, heres some good and bad- Motor ran well sensorless, with a little stutter at startup. I could not get it to run with sensors (which I have heard as being a problem for others from the limited online information). Whoever wired the L1019 must have been a monkey. Red was wired...
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    Bafang G062 / G063 Info

    Did Justin do a writeup on this motor, if so I totally missed it, got a link by chance? Good info on the G063- I'll have to take a look at some pics again. The copper fill from the pics that I have seen looked weak, I'll take another look. Laminations- All kinds of damage. Drilling (even with...
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    Bafang G062 / G063 Info

    Okay so the verdict on custom winding: No go. I tried 3 different wire sizes, oem ~.5mm, larger .65mm, and much larger .81mm. The larger wires dont wind as well, the OEM sizing seemed to work best. The oem motors are tightly wound, they seem to be wound very well. Atleast with my winding...
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    MXUS GDR19-FAT - Most powerful geared motor?

    I run them on a bomber frame, so it has about the strongest torque arms of any bike on the market. Motor is vented. Nylon gears have stripped within 5 miles on brand new motors, Ive tried it with multiple new and used motors, they strip before the motor even gets hot, on 105nm (90 phase amps)...
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    MXUS GDR19-FAT - Most powerful geared motor?

    Yep and the 6.5T is like 8kv, so the 5T mxus should be right in between them at about 8.35, a slightly lower KV than the 6T bafang Riding it hard (full throttle from stops, rocks, wheelies, jumps, etc) I have blown nylon gears, parallel keys, broken clutches, on multiple brand new motors, even...
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    MXUS GDR19-FAT - Most powerful geared motor?

    G062 is a great motor no doubt, I have 5 of them too lol. I'm just hoping this is the start of the next "generation" of geared hubs, being larger, and mechanically stronger. The mechanical strength of the axle for torque I think is huge, allowing them to be run at higher torque without breaking...
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    MXUS GDR19-FAT - Most powerful geared motor?

    All the G062's are 30H, the mxus is only 25H but has a larger rotor diameter to fit more magnets, plus the larger stator leverage and more copper. The stronger axle/clutch should be a huge benefit too as I have had issues with shearing the keys under high torque and have heard of this happening...
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    Bafang G062 / G063 Info

    Ok I have a theory. If you use a multimeter on the lowest ohm setting, and you attach one prong to one of the 3 phase wires on your motor cable, and the other prong to your axle, it shouldnt have a reading, it should be an open circuit (no circuit). If you get a resistance reading, it means...
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    MXUS GDR19-FAT - Most powerful geared motor?

    Posting in the Bafang forum as there is no MXUS forum, and this motor may be relevant to users of the Bafang geared hubs. This is somewhat of a new motor, and limited information is available in english. Here is some information that may help. XF19R XF19R-FAT GDR19 FAT GDR19-FAT 2 versions of...
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    Bafang G062 / G063 Info

    That looks like some fun riding! Curious what brand 45a controller you are using that is running "well" sensorless?
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    Bafang G062 / G063 Info

    Idk man sounds like it may be your controller. I have multiple controllers/batteries/motors so its easy for me to diagnose, I just plug into a different controller for diagnostics. Idk if the JN has temperature protection. I run it internally with no airflow, maxed out, and have never had a...
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    Bafang G062 / G063 Info

    I'm still experimenting with sensorless controllers. Some seem to work slightly better than others. But for hardcore offroad riding (rocks/bumps/jumps) they dont seem to work great. From my experience they can cut out at times, sometimes quite frequently. It can even be a safety issue, there...
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    Bafang G062 / G063 Info

    Ferrofluid: This made an interesting noise (sounded badass like a supercharger) but as expected within just a couple miles it all flung off. Because its a geared motor spinning at much higher RPM than most DD's it just flung off the magnets and onto the windings and whatever else. Did not work...
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    Bafang G062 / G063 Info

    Hall sensor board delete- to increase airflow by 20%+ and reduce "hot spots" hidden behind the board High Temp Insulation Varnish brushed on windings Oversized Vent holes 2-3x larger than before on both sides 8-10ML ferrofluid on magnets Custom Hub sinks re installed 22.7" OD tire (low gearing...
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    Bafang G062 / G063 Info

    Sweet! And good info- thank you. I'm sure it helps, I left the nylon gears in my brand new motor about 3 weeks ago (after breaking about 4 sets of them) just to give it one last shot at 90 phase amps only- plus they were the nylons with a little bit of steel coming around the sides a bit, the...
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    Bafang G062 / G063 Info

    I wanna see how close my watts and torque guess was! Hurry up on that dyno! Yeah 6.5t is only 12 strands. I think 6t has better copper fill? Are you sure yours is 15 strands? Possibly why my windings are going before phases. Also not sure if the venting helps the phase wire temps ever so slightly.
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