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  1. mstepan44

    Turbo Creo SL Comp carbon EVO vs Canyon Grail:ON CF 7 (this or that?)

    Your ride looks amazing, what a treat! Funny, I had the Cannondale Neo in my final 3 of candidates (and I have a lefty Bad Boy 2 urban bike in my stable, so, I’m well familiar and a fan of their bikes). If I were to be doing only gravel I would have probably landed on the Neo. I hear what ur...
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    Turbo Creo SL Comp carbon EVO vs Canyon Grail:ON CF 7 (this or that?)

    In reading forum comments, it seems that the dropper gets little love; I’ll keep that in mind as I put miles on my bike. Given your tire switch, I’m guessing you’re using the bike primarily on paved roads. I‘m thinking asphalt will be more in the minority for me. I’m taking it out today for...
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    Turbo Creo SL Comp carbon EVO vs Canyon Grail:ON CF 7 (this or that?)

    I went the same route; I opted for the large, reduced my stem about an inch, and, feel the bike fits me very well. Altho, truth be told, I think the M would have also worked for me. Bike fit is such a big deal, given the number of hours we spend on our equipment, really want it to be ideal.
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    Turbo Creo SL Comp carbon EVO vs Canyon Grail:ON CF 7 (this or that?)

    Wow, ur right, you have a keen eye for speckles. I’m right on the height cutpoint betw M vs L frame, and, I spent quite some time going back & forth riding the two sizes today, all the while missing the black dots. I’ll get them to throw in a nice shop kit to me to make up for it😎
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    Turbo Creo SL Comp carbon EVO vs Canyon Grail:ON CF 7 (this or that?)

    I got some much appreciated feedback from this forum, v helpful for me to come to a final decision. It’s the Specialized Creo SL Comp Carbon EVO for me, pulled the trigger today; getting the tubes removed, pickup tomorrow! Can’t wait to get this on some hills, so stoked! Mucho Gracias for the...
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    Turbo Creo SL Comp carbon EVO vs Canyon Grail:ON CF 7 (this or that?)

    As u guessed, the tire cost not really a big factor. I like hearing feedback on how others handle these kinds of out of the box issues; want to be fair to the shop & myself. Thx for ur input.
  7. mstepan44

    Turbo Creo SL Comp carbon EVO vs Canyon Grail:ON CF 7 (this or that?)

    No denying the dampening / suspension benefit on the Creo, must pay dividends on extended rides. However, I found that dbl handlebar on the Canyon grail appealing, out of the ordinary does tend to catch my eye. I’m still oscillating betw these two bikes, wanna get it right the first time...
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    Turbo Creo SL Comp carbon EVO vs Canyon Grail:ON CF 7 (this or that?)

    If buying the Creo fr the AD’s existing inventory, do u know if they’re typically receptive to switch out the tires for a larger width, I.e., repl the 38 with 42, at no additional cost? I’m still scratching my head on why they’ve gone so narrow w a gravel bike? All the ones I’ve compared it to...
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    Turbo Creo SL Comp carbon EVO vs Canyon Grail:ON CF 7 (this or that?)

    Regarding the grade I'm concerned about, I tend to think the steepest bit where it hits 20 degrees isn't sustained, but, it is interspersed with 10-15, good to hear that the Creo can handle that. Funny, glad to hear that you incr your tire width to 42; I was questioning the Specialized AD staff...
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    Turbo Creo SL Comp carbon EVO vs Canyon Grail:ON CF 7 (this or that?)

    Appreciate ur input. I did take the Creo for a spin, going up a fairly steep incline (20 degree slope) but the hill was only a 100 yards long; and, not surprisingly, the Creo didn't have any problem there. The hills I'll be doing in NC are a lot more serious. I have (and continue) to hear...
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    Turbo Creo SL Comp carbon EVO vs Canyon Grail:ON CF 7 (this or that?)

    New to this forum but have been looking at pulling the trigger on an e-gravel bike for awhile; I have it down to the Specialized CREO SL Comp Carbon EVO vs Canyon Grail:ON Cf 7. Both have gotten great reviews via multiple venues and I've ridden the CREO at my local Specialized AD and was...
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