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The handle bar stem came with three spacers. Anybody know if the stock tube is long enough to raise the handlebars another 10 mm, or would I need to get a tube extender to do that? Edit: Just disassembled a bit and from the design it looks like I'd need an extender. If I'm wrong on that...

I asked and the dealer seemed confused about this. Plus I was feeling the pinch and so didn't push it. But it sounds like an upgrade that can be done post purchase if desired. Is that right?

Yes, I called in a radius. Actually the online stock reports were dead on. Just the two 8's with the CX in the L frame within 100 miles. One regular and one with the stagger.

I'll post back more once I have the bike dialed in. First impressions: when you first see the bike in person it looks big, cool, but big. I was a bit worried it might feel cumbersome or clunky. But it doesn't at all. Quite the opposite actually. Driving around the block at the dealers it felt...

Well, well. I spent some money. :)

Far as I can tell, just two 8+ bikes in a L frame size in stock in SoCal at the moment, one down towards Irvine and one in Pasadena. Both the gun barrel color. The Pasadena is a stagger frame; hoping to drive out there today to check it out.

Even with the density of Trek dealers in SoCal, not seeing too many Allant 7+ or 8+ with the CX motor in a large frame size listed in stock in the area. Perhaps that is just the way inventory is right now. I'll have to call around and see how far out an order would take.

With the Allant series, any strong feelings on the shock fork of the 7+ versus the solid fork of the 8+? Also, I got to thinking about braking on the way down; its a watery eyed screamer to get you going in the morning. Both the 7+ and 8+ have the Shimano MT200 hydraulics, right? So they...

Well, it's nice that there's a little pull out at the top...Looks like there is a stop sign about 80% of the way up too. Funny place for it. My dad taught me to drive on a VW bug standard. He would have driven me up to a stop like that, put it in neutral with the parking brake on, traded...

Yes, I thought of getting a moped at one point but it was like, nah, really like the ethos and experience of biking. And then Covid, professional obligations and some inertia set in. I have this sense that once I get the ebike it will be like "I shouldn't have waited so long". Hope so. Having...

8 meaning the Allant 8? On a 22% grade that's impressive! So (as I'm learning more) that's 540 peak watts-something like 36 volts and a 15 amp controller with the CX motor? Since the motor itself is 250 watt continuous, does it tend to get pretty hot on a long climb?

If I got up that hill at 20 mph I'd feel like I was 20 years old again! :) If I have it straight for the allant bikes that is the difference between 7+ and 7s+ (or 8+ vs 8s+), the CX versus speed motors, with the speed going up to 28 mph but putting out less torque. I suppose gear ratios would...

What about the Trek Allant 7+. I'd have to bump my budget up but it would have a mid mount Bosch Performance Line CX 250 Watt, 85 Nm motor. I'm not sure how that corresponds to the Bosch generation 4 motor mentioned above, but it seems to be a popular bike. How do people think that might hold...

I'm kind of handy but for something, say, like bleeding and refilling hydraulic brake lines, I'm more and more inclined to take it in. Part of it is just time. I'm seeing something like the Trek Powerfly. Its more $$$ for sure and it's moving into a heavier mountain bike frame (not that I...

Yes...so it appears. Any experience or thoughts on Bafang vs Bosch for the motor? Thanks for you input.

well, that sounds like it does the job. Now I guess I need to find bikes that come equipped with that type of motor configuration...

Anybody have experience with this brand? https://rizebikes.com/products/city-md They appear to offer a 750 watt mid mount motor configuration in the 2K price range.

Thank you. The difference is primarily in the maximum torque? 35 Nm (active) vs 65 Nm (performance) if I'm looking at it right.

I did find this thread on this site that is along the same lines as my query: https://electricbikereview.com/forums/threads/first-e-bike-for-commuting-with-steep-roads.47640/. From a mechanical standpoint, there seems to be a possible consensus that a mid mount motor amplifies your own pedaling...

Apologies in advance as I'm sure this must be covered in various place here. I am looking for recommendations for an ebike with sufficient assist to help me with a commute that has an ~1 mile 10% (average) grade. I am 58, in reasonable shape (could better for sure), about 220 lbs. The total...