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Apologies I didnt mean to catch you out. But yes the GSD seems to be my only option. Except for Riese & Muller. Which are even more expensive than Tern. So completely out of the question monetarily.

Thankyou so much for taking the time to reply. I will continue to mull it over. But I love the combination of the Nexus hub and CDX carbon drive on my HSD. So far its been so reliable despite such poor weather conditions. The Active Line Plus motor is generally pretty good. But then I have not...

I currently have a Tern HSD S8i. I use it almost daily and mostly for commuting to work. I have had this bike for two years and so far it has been utterly reliable in the most atrocious weather & road conditions. But I have a hankering for a GSD because of the extra battery. The better Bosch...

Wow thats impressive. What motor do you have ?

I should have picked this up from where I left off in Jun 2022. I went ahead and got the Volspeed chip. And touch wood so far its been brilliant. The motor feels so much more smooth. You can hardly feel the cutoff. But then in Cheshire its very flat so I rarely hit the 27.9mph maximum. But I now...

Bit late to the party here but I often wonder as I watch another rider on a non assisted bike cruising at 17 - 18mph. Why in Europe we ebikers are restricted to 15.5mph. Another fellow brit posted that as the cyclepaths are shared with pedestrians. Then it is usually not safe to be doing 15mph...

Yep agree I can do the same for a short while. And then I get peed off with that. Thanks for the reply but it isnt really that simple is it. But look I didnt start this thread to debate the morality of right or wrong. I respect anybodies point of view but sorry im not changing mine.

So is the ALP motor Gen 3 ? And anymore positive experiences with derestricting the ALP motor ?

Thanks my friend I too appreciate your civility. Im too old now to take or give offence. I believe in Karma but strongly believe in treating folk as you would like to be treated yourself. Sorry about the 'lycra' remark. In the UK there is a strange division between those in lycra and those they...

We also have the same terminology for this state of affairs my friend.

Thanks Stefan will give them a look.

Thanks for your thoughtful point of view. But with respect I have another. One thing that really bugs me is that any lycra clad (non electric) road bike rider can easily average higher speeds. Infact if I remember right the last pedestrian killed in the UK was by a cyclist on a non electric...

Excellent thanks for that.

I was thinking the same. Even 20mph would have been better. We live in such a nanny state. I like the Vado range and would have liked one but got a better deal on my Tern. What are you getting to derestrict yours then ?

Never heard of bikespeed but like you they seem to have a good rep among forum members here. Looks like they will ship to the UK too.

Ah ok so only the CX motor is Gen 4. Mine is Gen 3. Or Gen 3 technology ?

Very much appreciating the replies so thanks a lot. So nobody seems to be using the VOLspeed V4 or Speedbox 3.0

Thanks mine uses the Nexus 8 speed hub so should be ok.

You have a Gen 4 ALP motor ? If so how can you tell whether its Gen 3 or 4 ? I have a 2021 Tern HSD S8i

In the UK its 15.5mph which in my opinion is total nonsense. I can still feel assistance up to around 16.5mph. But its still totally ridiculous and if I can find a reliable dongle that sticks two fingers up to HM government and the European Union. Im all for it.