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The video says it’s just over 60 lbs. Next time I’m near Reno I’ll drop by their office and give it a try. Other than that I’m like you- waiting for an honest review.

The closest I have found is this one out of Nevada. https://www.middriveebikes.com/product/2021-fmdf-folding-bike-in-black-ebikes-reno-sparks/

You may be right. I haven’t seen anything either. The most likely is the Surface 604 twist it seems.

Yes I did. I need a bike good on trails and this has 2.5 inch tires and no suspension.

The gocycle can’t do trails well. It’s a city rider mostly. The Montegue is great but has 1.75 inch tires and only 250 watts. Thanks for the input.

Perfect bike, the Tern HSD. I rode the P9 but think the other HSDs are similar. Bosch, torque sensing, suspension, ultra comfortable. It folds only in that the handlebar post folds tho. The one I saw had a seat attached on the back. One of the smoothest ebikes I have ever ridden...

Price not a consideration. I want it all and expect to pay more - Folding 20” fat tire with hidden battery - less than 50 lbs. 60 max. Very important as I am older. - Hyd brakes - Front suspension, rear also if possoble - Torque sensing. Cadence too if that works but definitely Torque. -...