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I am considering this bike (Bulls Iconic Speed TR1) and the Cannondale Tesoro Neo X1. It has the same Bosch motor (Class 3 - Performance Speed). It is a bit lighter as it is a hardtail. I think it comes in at about 50 lbs. This is on one of Cannondales web sites but I am not sure about the...

@drodg I feel your pain!

Thanks again @jodi2 for the thoughtful reply. I get what you are saying. I was actually thinking that I would not want to ride the more expensive carbon wheels off road and in gravel. If I buy the comp I will probably put a set of 38mm tires on it to give me the flex. to ride road and...

@jodi2 Thanks for the reply and advice-I think your points were on the money as I will mostly be riding alone and only occasionally in a group. I happen to really love the Comp Carbon in Black - everything blends together (including the motor) making it look less like an eBike. The color...

@Prairie Dog Thanks so much for the quick and thoughtful response! Much appreciated - it has been a hard decision for sure!

@Prairie Dog Since your family owns both the bikes I am considering, I would love to know if you notice any major differences in the way the Expert rides versus the Comp. I really love the Comp Carbon in black - it really makes it look like a normal bike which I happen to like. I am leaning...

I really like this bike in black. Everything blends together (unlike other colors). It is really stealthy!

Thanks for the feedback! I am also planning on have a pair of 38mm tires for offroad use regardless of whether I go with the comp or expert as I like the non evo colors for both model lines. This is a tough decision but am leaning towards the Expert...will decide soon!

Beautiful bikes. These are essentially the two bikes I am considering! I love the blue color of the Expert...no longer available for 2021. For 2021 they have a monochromatic grey color that I like. You can see photos of a members creo Expert earlier in this thread. I must say the bike...

Wow...very interesting bike and definitely fits what I am looking for. Also, very cool looking rig. Thanks so much for sharing this with me. It is on my short list and I will be checking it out.

I am aware that class 3 (28 mph) mountain bikes just don’t exist. My understanding is that it is a safety and regulatory issue. I am looking to buy a second bike (my first bike will be a Creo) that I can use to bomb around with and just have fun and do a little bit of light trail. I would...

Thank Thanks for posting the additional pictures - it really is a very nice looking bike! I am leaning towards it - the reason it is a bit trickier for me is that some of my riding will be off road (about 40%) so I would end of putting 38mm tires on it anyway. However, it would be nice to...

This is one of the bikes and colors I am considering - it really looks gorgeous! I have to say it is selling me on the looks alone! Sounds like you are really enjoying it. Thanks for the input.

Wow this is my first post to this forum - I did not expect such a response! I want to thank everyone for the insightful and thoughtful posts. You have all giving me plenty to consider - I will post my final decision soon! Best to you all and happy trails! MVBIKE

I am torn between the Creo SL Comp Carbon EVO and the Creo SL Expert (2021 model). The reason I am choosing the the non-EVO version of the Expert is color related - I basically like the Smoke/ Black/ Carbon color. I would actually ask the dealer to swap of the tires for the wider 38mm version...