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Too bad you never figured it out. If you ever find out please let us know. Thanks for the info.

I just went on a short ride trying John.JCAT's suggestion. The tube stem lock wasn't it, but I'm beginning to believe it is the Future Shock. Will have to do some more tests as it's not consistent. At this point it's kind of halfway between a rattle and a click. The pre-engine change was...

So I just looked it up and looks like most of their stuff does have a 2 year warranty. That's good news, I wonder if rattles are covered and if that may be a local dealer problem/solution?

Thanks I didn't try that, one was loose. Will ride the bike later today and see if it helps, but am skeptical because the sound is a different cadence than the rotating wheel.

Do any of you Creo owners experience any rattling on your bike that would be unusual on an analog bike? It sounds like there is some play in the gears in the motor. It makes no difference if the motor is on or off or if I’m pedaling or not. I own a Levo SL and other than the whirring motor...

My wife and I have Diverge Comps (middle range 3.7K) and our unassisted Creos are better faster/easier on the flats and downhill. You do feel the weight going uphill. To be fair our Creo components are much more spec'd out. Carbon wheels for instance.

My default hand position is on the brake hoods and I can reach the buttons easily with my thumbs. It does take a while to memorize the button position (but I'm old).

You're asking about this (see pic)? My wife's XS expert evo has the hole and attachment, but it hits the chain because of the short chain stay. So it wasn't mounted on hers, mine is a medium and there is no contact with the chain.

My wife's Expert came with Ultegra.

I think that's still the 2020 model on the website. The 2021 models have "New" noted on the upper right.

It's the bump, not much to see. Again they work great, can't imagine going without them. In case it's not obvious that's the inside of the bar, I switch modes using my thumbs.

The buttons are too small to see (they're under the handlebar tape). Here's a bad picture of the bikes in the garage. It was pouring rain when I took and my garage is overflowing. Sorry I have nothing better.

They control the assist mode. They're under the wrap, a little tricky to find at first. Right side goes up, left down. You still have to turn off the bike on the top tube.

I'm in North Carolina. I had to special order them. Took about 5 days.

My wife and I just bought 2021 EVO Creos (S Works and Expert) both come with remote buttons on the bars. They're really nice, I wasn't familiar with the previous models, but the dealer said they were new as of 3 weeks ago.