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    Looking for a super light ebike for hilly commute

    So there we go. In the end I purchased the Orbea Gain F40, the base model, for 2000$. While tempting the BMC was just too expensive for a commuter bike and I already had bikes stolen so did not want to run that risk. I must say this is exactly what I was looking for. I must also say it is for a...
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    Looking for a super light ebike for hilly commute

    Well JRA, that is one of the points of this post actually and I couldn't agree more. Although while the extra power will compensate the extra weight, in terms of overall output of rider+motor, and overall power2weight ratio, it might be more efficient to have a lighter bike and a smaller engine...
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    Looking for a super light ebike for hilly commute

    I've seen a video in which they claim a bike weight of 13 or 14Kg, which seems ok but a bit on the heavy side for a full carbon frame. My gut feeling is it is lighter than that. I agree it's odd the weight it not really mentioned or put forward more. I wouldn't worry about the carbon frame, pro...
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    Looking for a super light ebike for hilly commute

    Well, looks like the market is moving. Orbea Gain... and now this: https://www.bmc-switzerland.com/int-en/alpenchallenge-amp-city/ A full carbon ebike! I will try it out when available in August, there is a BMC dealer right next to my place :-)
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    Looking for a super light ebike for hilly commute

    The bike you're describing sounds very similar to the one I am riding lol, minus the nicer groupset on yours :-) I do climb these 15% hills at 20+ kph (with some effort), where on pure muscle I would hardly be at 10kph and stalling. On the flats and the downhill I am seriously hindered by...
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    Looking for a super light ebike for hilly commute

    Unfortunately the Trek Verve+ is not available in my country. I am increasingly interested in the Orbea Gain, I found a shop which has them as of end of May - they seem to be in high demand and limited production! Really need to try that one out. I'll post pics if I get my hands on one. I also...
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    Looking for a super light ebike for hilly commute

    Got a few things wrong in the specs: - The Ampler has a 42T crank, on the pro side, you can up the power to 350W / 35kmh (illegal where I live!) - The Orbea Gain weights 11.3Kg... (!)
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    Looking for a super light ebike for hilly commute

    Oh! I didn't expect so many answers in such a short time, thank you all so much!! There are some great ideas there! Regarding carrying the bike, indeed at my place I can take the battery off, but in my city there are a few shortcuts which involve going up a long flight of stairs, and leaving...
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    Looking for a super light ebike for hilly commute

    Hi everyone, I currently have a Riese Muller Roadster HS (350W, 65Nm, 20T / 9sp 11-32), which weighs 23kg. Sometimes I have the feeling I use the engine only to compensate for that weight! Also I made a mistake and got a size too big (too used to the road bike position), now my saddle is super...
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