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    Preference ?? - Would you prefer a "quiet click-less" freewheel?

    I'm just wanting some feedback from ebike riders if they would prefer a rear IGH / derailleur to have a silent free wheel or one that clicks as is standard in the industry.
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    Does anyone understand the EU Power Limit??

    We've all read about the EU 250W power rating / limit for ebike drive systems but the drive system do have higher than 250W peak power. I'm trying to comprehend what the legislation actually specifies.... Is 250W the peak power the motor and controller can provide without overheating within 30...
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    Why Class 3 is such bad legislation...

    There’s no question about it: Class 3 ebikes (S-pedelecs in Europe) are an ideal means of transport for commuters and would help ease the traffic situation, especially in congested cities. The legislature is hindering the transformation of urban mobility because these models are restricted to...
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    Any IGHs with over 350% range, >20,000km service life & 300nM torque rating???

    Was helping a friend configure a cargo ebike with a Bafang M620 mid-drive. He is about 200lb so it's frequently expected that upwards of 300nM of torque will be subjected to the IGH when the bike is fully loaded which is expected to be upwards of 800lbs. He wants a 20,000km minimum service life...
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    A Regulatory Conundrum...Are both LSEBs per HR727 & 3-Class ebikes both legal for sale and use? Apparently yes...

    The only difference between the two regulations is that HR727 does not differentiate the technology utilized to generate the assist as 3-class does for an unknown reason and there is a defined motor alone power limit above 20mph instead of two different assist limits. These differences are...
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    A LSEB is truly defined as a bicycle / 3-class ebikes not same & voluntary

    I know this is going to be contentious with some but I'm just starting my efforts to get this information out to as many as possible. Just recently had a conference call with the CPSC on a petition I filed that requested a preemption of the 3-class state regulations. They clarified why they...
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    Quick Legal Question on 3-class speedometer and motor cut-off brake requirements

    In 2002 when ebikes were moved from NHTSA jurisdiction to the CPSC the requirement for a speedometer was removed and not a single state protested that. Why did People for Bikes draft the 3-class legislation with section 303 of the model legislation to have states re-add that requirement on Class...
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    One more time I'm going to explain the HR727 ebike definition

    Many on EBR claim that by advocating the federal definition for a "low speed electric bicycle" (LSEB) as a bike for state use regulations I'm advocating unsafe crazy speeds that would result in less access for ebikes. Let's examine that scientifically to see if they know what they are talking...
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    People for Bikes cancelled the legislation update webinar that was scheduled for next month

    I'm sure everyone will just claim it's coincidence but they are well aware of the petition being filed with CPSC and I simply think they would prefer to avoid potential questions. They have had every chance to post some public comments on the EBR forum but have avoided that.
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    Thought that cruise control might be non-compliant with 3-class legislation.

    My mis-read on section 206...sorry!! This is the section 206 motor disengagement rule in their "model legislation" that I misread. I was thinking both had to disengage the motor but not the correct interpretation. An electric bicycle shall operate in a manner so that the electric motor is...
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    Compulsory insurance "likely" on ebikes if 3-class becomes federal law

    I know there are plenty of people that have claimed that I'm a crazy conspiracy theorist in claiming that if the 3-class legislation being pushed by People for Bikes with the intent of replacing the profoundly better 2002 Federal definition for Low Speed Electric Bike per HR727 that compulsory...
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    Next month People for Bikes is having a legislation update webinar....Everyone join in on that

    The link is no link posted yet but it appears to be on the schedule: https://www.peopleforbikes.org/bike-industry-webinars I would like everyone that follows any of the regulatory status on ebikes to attend this webinar. I do plan on asking them a few questions on the 3-class legislation that I...
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    Is an LSEB defined as a Bike or not???

    A lot of EBR forum contributors know I interpret the statutes that a "Low Speed Electric Bicycle" (LSEB) is defined as a "bike" and that state bike use/traffic laws going back many decades were intended to regulate them exactly the same. It's my opinion that is best for the ebike industry as it...
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    Ebike Definition Conflict in HR1019 and HR384

    There is a clear conflict / discrepancy with the recent H.R. 1019 and H.R. 384. Both bills were introduced to the 117'th congress on the same day - January 21, 2021. However, if you look at the legal text, each bill contains a different definition of what defines / constitutes a low speed...
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    Multi Class Mode ebikes....compliant or ????

    I've seen a few ebike companies releasing ebike models that have switchable Class Modes. In other words, it means a single model can ridden as a Class 1, 2, or 3 ebike. I'm just wondering what the general opinion is on this. My interpretation is that the industry is saying we really don't like...
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    Malcolm Currie Passed Away April 18th....EV Warrior

    A PhD Electrical Engineer with an impressive work history that was instrumental in getting "low speed electric bicycles" (LSEBs) moved from NHTSA regulation to the CPSC in 2002 (he was visionary enough to know it was important that LSEBs not be regulated as motor vehicles. His goal was that...
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    People for Bikes Presents 3-Class as "Voluntary" to the CPSC

    Not sure how many noticed that PFBs presented 3-class legislation at a CPSC sponsored micromobility forum as a "Voluntary ebike Standard." I think they are hedging in case the 3-class system does end up getting preempted - they will claim the states adopted as law entirely on their own. I don't...
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    Statement regarding potential ebike law preemption of 3-class legislation

    I posted this in general discussion forum thinking it would get more notice but it's a regulation topic so so here's the link to the post. It potentially could have a dramatic impact on how ebikes are state regulated in the future...
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    Statement Regarding Potential CPSC Ebike Law Preemption of 3-class Legislation

    I’m releasing this statement to inform the media, industry and consumers that I have filed a “petition for preemption” with the CPSC regarding the “3-Class” E-Bike state legislation. If the petition is determined to have legal merit by CPSC General Counsel, the 3-Class legislation adopted by 26...
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    One more try....Does Pre-emptive apply to CPSC ebike definition???

    Does the CPSC federal definition for low speed electric bicycles super-cede the People for Bikes 3-class system??? Not opinions...looking for legal information on this subject. I 100% believe the CPSC Pre-emptive policy applies equally to the definition of a low speed electric bicycle and the...
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